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Title: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Tim B on 12, July, 2013, 06:19:36 PM
Hi all

I'm deep into a ferrari dino 206gt build
The car is a purpose built steel box section chassis, fiberglass body and alfa V6 3.0 12v engine with the original gearbox and Bosch ECU.
Current working on the wiring for the engine and just added an engine fuse box to reduce some of the cable runs.
Next step is to check and fill the cooling system, make a custom part for the air intake (using my new 3D printer) and attempt to start the engine.

I'm going to have lots of questions as this is my first build and a very ambitious one.


When I am not in the garage working on 'project dino' I am a product manager for a CCTV manufacturer, cyclist and BBQ chef.

Tim.

Fishponds, Bristol
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: fullpint on 12, July, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
Welcome along Tim..
Love the Dino..
Post a pic or two when you can..
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: 'The Gaffer' on 12, July, 2013, 10:09:59 PM
Hi Tim and a warm welcome to our club.

Some pics of your build could be of great interest to our members.
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Hairy Santa on 13, July, 2013, 11:39:12 AM
welcome to the madhouse, sound's an interesting build, and you are local being in fishponds

nice to see some pictures  :)
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Bulldog Bri on 13, July, 2013, 05:47:51 PM
Dino, lovely car, one of my fav's too. ;D

As you can tell, We need to see some pic's. (half the club can't read  ;))

8)
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Sprint 7 on 13, July, 2013, 06:37:43 PM
Speak for yourself Bri. I only get a bit of trouble with joined up writing. Come on get cracking with the piccies please.
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Moleman on 14, July, 2013, 08:50:44 PM
Hi & welcome to the Club.  :D
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Iancider on 15, August, 2013, 11:08:09 PM
Sounds interesting Tim - I wasn't as brave.  Welcome to the club.
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: YellaBelly on 16, August, 2013, 07:56:53 AM
Hello and welcome to the club Tim :)

As already said, pictures an' all that ;)
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Tim B on 22, November, 2013, 04:09:33 PM
OK, some pictures...

(http://s24.postimg.org/dyx7vu4ld/2013_08_18_19_05_21.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dyx7vu4ld/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/xw354sngh/2013_08_18_19_06_06.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xw354sngh/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/ehxprd6m9/2013_08_18_19_06_31.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ehxprd6m9/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/wfn18wv5t/2013_08_18_19_06_36.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wfn18wv5t/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/bzgm4fa9t/2013_08_18_19_07_09.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bzgm4fa9t/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/thunsycw1/2013_08_18_19_07_51.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/thunsycw1/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/5aeo25ebl/2013_08_18_19_09_02.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5aeo25ebl/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/ih8pfezep/2013_08_18_19_09_35.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ih8pfezep/)

In other news, I just got power and lighting in the garage, so working hours have been extended :D
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: YellaBelly on 22, November, 2013, 04:54:41 PM
Looking good chap! Should sound pretty sweat with that V6 in there too :D
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Moleman on 22, November, 2013, 08:03:04 PM
That's going to look nice. keep up the good work.  :)
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Sumov8 on 22, November, 2013, 08:06:15 PM
Good choice of engine, which manufacture of the body have you picked?
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Bulldog Bri on 23, November, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
welcome to the club Tim, interesting build. How long have you been at it? :P

Ask all the Q's you want, most of the time you'll get a decent answer ;) ;D

8)
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Tim B on 29, November, 2013, 06:12:55 PM
Quote from: Sumov8 on 22, November, 2013, 08:06:15 PM
Good choice of engine, which manufacture of the body have you picked?
The kit came from Classic Replicas UK down in Bridgwater.
I've been working on the project for longer than I would like to think about. Recently I have had a lot of progress and things are coming together.
I originally wanted to build a Westfield but fell in love with the Dino. Sadly it was less of a kit and more of a puzzle.

I've updated the air intake now with a HKS filter and changed the fuel clips, i'll post some images soon.

Q: I need to get cables from the engine bay into the passenger cabin. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good system/glands to get cables through the fiberglass bulkhead?

Thanks

Tim.
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Iancider on 29, November, 2013, 10:09:43 PM
Looks like

Phwaaaahhh sounds like Phwaaaaahhhh 8) :P :D

Good to hear you now have light and power - talk about intrepid!

Good luck
Ian
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Iancider on 29, November, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
Tim,

QuoteQ: I need to get cables from the engine bay into the passenger cabin. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good system/glands to get cables through the fiberglass bulkhead?

These are good but pricey

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/hose-fitting-accessories/seals-it-firewall-grommet-seals (http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/hose-fitting-accessories/seals-it-firewall-grommet-seals)

A good set of grommets from AES

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/332 (http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/332) and http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/331 (http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/331)

This is a good item from minisport http://www.minisport.com/14a7081-rubber-floor-pan-wing-bulkhead-grommet-25mm.html (http://www.minisport.com/14a7081-rubber-floor-pan-wing-bulkhead-grommet-25mm.html)

From CBS - try http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/search?Q=grommet&As=false&Cid=0&Isc=false&Mid=0&Pf=&Pt=&Sid=false (http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/search?Q=grommet&As=false&Cid=0&Isc=false&Mid=0&Pf=&Pt=&Sid=false)

Use a stepped cone drill in fibre glass to make you holes  - a quick look found these uber cheap on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-PCE-SET-LARGE-HSS-STEP-CONE-DRILL-TITANIUM-HSS-BIT-SET-HOLE-CUTTER-POUCH-/170852608258 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-PCE-SET-LARGE-HSS-STEP-CONE-DRILL-TITANIUM-HSS-BIT-SET-HOLE-CUTTER-POUCH-/170852608258)

Happy to help with more - loads of data on file

Regards
Ian








Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: bluehornetrider on 30, November, 2013, 06:57:47 PM
I'm interested in 3d printers, but know very little about them, thought that they were silly money £20000 plus, but I guess as more people buy them and the tech moves on the price drops.  Can you show some of your 3d printing please. :D
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: dave_bence on 30, November, 2013, 07:07:20 PM
I used these glands from Maplin (lots of other sizes available):

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/ce-tek-ip68-polyamide-gland-pg11-up97f

They can be used in panels up to 6mm thick.
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Iancider on 07, December, 2013, 11:33:30 PM
3D printers:

They can now be bought for at little as £560 but you wil need to drive them with 3D CAD which can cost huge amounts.  Simple machines work like hotmelt glue guns gradually building shapes in layers from the melt.  Top machines use two lasers to harden shapes inside liquid plastic.  All machines produce hard plastic items and the plastics used are not tough materials - so I think it still has a long way to go.

Regards
Ian
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: bluehornetrider on 08, December, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
I'd be looking for a 3d printer that produces strong enough pieces so the can be used to replaced bits on the car, as the 25 year old plastic is now brittle and the parts are almost impossible to replace.
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Tim B on 11, December, 2013, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: bluehornetrider on 30, November, 2013, 06:57:47 PM
I'm interested in 3d printers, but know very little about them, thought that they were silly money £20000 plus, but I guess as more people buy them and the tech moves on the price drops.  Can you show some of your 3d printing please. :D

Ah, 3D printing. A good winter hobby when it's too cold outside!
So, the short of it is...
3D CAD software is free! I use Google Sketchup and it's very easy to use one you go through the tutorial videos.
You can now buy a 3D printer that prints (reliably) in ABS plastic for about £500. This will print objects up to 15cm cube. I found initial setup a bit fiddly as I had to level the printing platform to get it reliable but there are lots of instructional videos online.
ABS plastic can be bought for approx £30 per kilo, so it's not expensive, especially as you often print objects with a honeycomb pattern fill and not solid.
Objects can be sanded easily and painted after using a plastic primer.

Total budget about £530 and some time.

I have a Solidoodle2 3D printer.... http://www.solidoodle.com/ and I use Sketchup 3D CAD... http://www.sketchup.com

Any questions just ask...

Tim.
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: Iancider on 11, December, 2013, 10:15:04 PM
Tim

Thanks I am updated - I must have blinked!

Ian
Title: Re: Ferrari 206gt replica build
Post by: bluehornetrider on 12, December, 2013, 07:52:30 PM
How robust are the items you print out?

I'm looking to make a new wing mirror retainer but it has little cups to hold balls.  But the OEM become brittle and are no longer made or are really expensive, so if it works out cheaper to make a few unobtainable items on a 3d printer I might take the plunge.

Speaking to my cousin who trains people to use CAD about this subject mentioned he has just returned from Las Vegas with a seminar on 3d printing, all the big computer companies were talking about their plans.  All sorts of exotic materials that can move and react with their environments.