I've just got back home after spending a long weekend up in York with my friend Steve (Member, Merlin) and yep, he's just bought me another car to work on.
This time it's already registered and just needs a good tidy up to get it back on the road.
It's an RMB Gentry. A MG TF Replica in red using Triumph running gear. Which car I'm not sure yet, but it's from 1963, :o is all we know at the mo'.
Anyone got any 'old' Triumph Haynes Manuals laying about no longer needed ;D
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Couple of pic's from the auction.
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Dont you ever give up Bri??? :o ;) 8) You two are like Mike Brewer and Edd China ;D
Interesting project. Have you room for 3 cars?
Nope ;D
It will be 4 cars to be correct ???
Hopefully it will be a fairly quick turn around with it one ;)
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Bri, if you've got that much spare time, do you fancy doing my job for a while (travel to hot and exotic places :) ) so I can get on with my one and only build :-[ ;)
I wish I did have more spare time John :) and some more space. (more cars) I'll be having my own meetings soon ???
Have narrowed it down to a 1300 Triumph Herald Based car as well now.
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Completely off subject...
York ? I used to live there ! (my wife is from York). Where abouts did you go ? Train museom is a good day out for young engineers.
My friend lives in Haxby just north of York. We've been into town a few times so this weekend spent a day up in Filey.
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Got the car home today and there's lots to do. ???
Most of the fibreglass wings need attention, from crazing to a rip that has been poorly repaired.
Floors need completly replacing. As does the dashboard and some internal panels.
The chassis is solid but does need wire brushing and painting.
Haven't dared try turning the engine over.
Seats are in very good condition, (no rips or tears)
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I'm not MAD!! honest :P
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Haxby ? I know it well, my aunt lives there !
Wow - that's a project and a half you have there ! Gonna look good when it's done though.
If I turned up with a car in that state my wife would pack her bags!!! :o
Wow Bri, thats a shed :o
Bit of T-Cut will soon have it looking like new though ;)
Quote from: paintman on 06, August, 2010, 10:14:43 PM
If I turned up with a car in that state my wife would pack her bags!!! :o
If I turned up with a car in that state, my wife would pack
MY bags!
Yey.....
Went out and had a play with the engine this afternoon, and fitted in a very simple starter loom. The engine turned over very smoothly so with that I added in the ignition and got a spark at the plugs, with that I put some fuel in a small bottle and inserted a pipe in the bottle up to the fuel pump and tried again. Watching the fuel feed pipe to the carb I could see fuel going through then with a little choke the engine started. Big puff of blue smoke to start with but seeing that the engine hasn't been started for 13 years! I can't complain and that soon cleared. ;D
What a result, maybe this will be ok to do up. :D
One very happy builder now this evening
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Bri,
great result - not much left to do now then!!!!!
Had a bit more of a fiddle WITH THE CAR! today.
It comes apart very easy ;D (so far)
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That's 'cause of the rust.......ha. ha. ;D ;D
Quote from: paintman on 15, August, 2010, 08:57:03 PM
That's 'cause of the rust.......ha. ha. ;D ;D
Nope. All the
ali panels are in good shape! Even the bolts are fairly clean. Just a lot of dirt and cobwebs ;D
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Nice one...... ;) ;)
Rather you than me mate. Looks like the whole thing needs to be put in a giant sandblaster :o
Good luck with the project though.
I had a little play with the car over the weekend and tried a battery on the engine... It turned over very easily and sounded very smooth. So I then carried on and wired in a coiland got a spark at the plugs after ajusting the points gap.
So what else could I do but send some fuel up to the carb and see what would happen, well the engine didn't evn think twice once the fuel hit the carb, she burst into life and ran and reved sweet as anything :o not bad since it's been unused for 13 years ;D very happy.
Just a little carpentry project and a good scrub and spary make the intirior look good and MOT it! Easy :P
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Quote from: bulldog bri on 25, August, 2010, 11:17:42 AM
Just a little carpentry project and a good scrub and spary make the intirior look good and MOT it! Easy :P
Dont forget a quick rub over with some T-Cut - Jobs a good 'un ;D
Hi Brian
I have just sold a similar car on eBay and am about to sell off parts from 2 others. All herald based. One was a Gentry.
So if you need any bits let me know so I don't list them.
You are welcome to have a rumage through the pile.
I may have a manual and will look in the workshop tommorrow.
In my youff I had two Heralds so know a bit about them any queries - just ask.
Dave
Thanks Dave, I'll let you know once I really start on the car if there is anything we need. ;D
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Made the most of the last 2 weekends good weather, stripped down both sides of the car and painted the exposed chassis and framework. All are in very good condition still. I've also made up some cardboard patterns for the new plywood panels for the floor and sides.
I've now got a pile of bits that do need wire brushing so a day in the garage will see those bits ready to go back on. (brackets, foot pedals)
Have got a huge engine crane on it's way as well just got to find a way of getting it over to my garage. (it's huge :o)
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We've also decided on the colour scheme for the car now, found this original TF and love it :-*
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Not one to speek out of turn, but thats not a car. Its a bloody tractor. lol
Cant wait to see fineshed article.
Tony
Subtlety was never one of Wallnut's greatest gifts, obviously!!!! ;D ;D
That's going to be one classy looking car, full marks for taking on a challenge ;D
Good luck, JT
Good progress today, started using the sanding disc on the angle grinder to remove the perished gel coat.
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As you can see about 50% was nackered
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Started the day early and picked up a couple of sheets of Plywood to replace the rotten panels of the car. I've already made up some cardboard patterns of the floor and sides. Cut out both floor parts and one of the sides (so far). After a bit of adjusting they all fit pretty well. ;D
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Micky testing the floor :)
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Side panel test fit
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Making sure the door will fit ::)
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Keep up the good work Bri! ;)
You ve spoilt it, It dont look like a tractor anymore lol
Tony
This weekend sees the Gentry back on her wheels after and cleaning the rear suspension. All that needed replacing was one of the wheel cylinders and a new set of brake shoes.
This week I'm hoping to start on the wiring for the ignition and get hold of a new clutch master cylinder and an alterntor to replace the Dynomo.
Will get some pics up in the week.
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Keep up the good work Bri 8)
Just a little update on the progress of the Gentry...
I now have the ignition wired up properly (to use the key) :-[ and I've also been working on the interior, panels and carpets.
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Even some rain couldn't stop play ;D
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Looking good Bri :)
Love the new wet weather gear, looks like an Aldi manager's special ;). Folds up small too I bet?
JB
Nice interior Bri, love those classic instruments ;D
Nice one Bri, dash looks cool 8)
Think I've just about got the car ready for MoTing now, I did take the car for a quite test drive in the week after work down to the local common. I had a mate from work follow behind in case of breakdown but wasn't needed. The car drove really well just gave out a little smoke, I've put some of the Wynns oil treatment in to help but think thats gonna need a little more running around before having full effect (fingers crossed).
Pics taken at night with just headlights on the car
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How the car is looking now, just about ready for painting ;D
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Looking good
Good work Brian, looking nice and flat :D
hopefully not far behind in the painting stage myself :)
JB
Fingers crossed for you on the smoke Bri
Well. The car has had an MoT. Failed on a fair bit. Lol. I've sorted most of the problems now, electrics, welding etc... I've also had on the way back, very bad running, missing on a couple of cyl's :( So took the head off found 1 valve seat badly burnt and some of the others on their way. reground them all and with a new head gasket put it all back together. I know I've got spark and fuel. The engine turns over but won't fire just the ocational cough. I've tried to test the compression but my tester is old and may not reading any more as I can't belive it's gone from running to no compression that quick. Has anyone got a compression tester that they could bring over (kingswood area) or lend before I rip the head off again. PLEASE ::)
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Sure you havent put the plugs leads back the wrong way round or something as simple as that?
Hopefully someone will have a compression tester you can borrow.
Hi Bri,
just spotted you text on the phone
think your engine is 1-3-4-2, make sure you dont have the middle ones ass about tit, or you will have 1-2-4-3 and it wont like that
take off rocker cover, recheck the tappets, dont forget only adjust inlet when the opposite inlet is down like wise for the exhaust ones, this is important
I do have a tester here but trying my hardest to put my engine back in at the moment so a bit stuck at the mo, but if you want to come and grab it feel free
Pete
Thanks Pete, Have checked firing order, the dizzy can only go in one way as well so not 180 out, tappets checked and rechecked. Might drop by tomorrow morning to borrow it, if thats ok.
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Thanks to Pete for coming over and working through things on the engine with me. I've now taken the head back off and going to reseat the valves through again. I've also taken the pistons out and have a new set of rings on order. Will get hold of some Wellseal to help seal the head down next time. MoT is booked for Tuesday morning. Fingers crossed. ::)
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Strange one that, hope you get it sorted.
Just a quick plea... ;D Has anyone got a ring compressor I can borrow for Saturday, Please :D
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Brian
I have one and can take it into the mail centre for tomorrow if you want
Steve
That would be great. thanks. could you leave it in the key office. otherwise I get there around 1:50 I could meet at the entrance door. Thanks.
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I will drop them into the Key Office around 08:00 ;)
Thanks Steve. just picked it up. Will get it back to you at a meeting probably easiest. ;D
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No problem Brian, we shouldnt need it for a while, "Hopefully"
In the words of Victor Meldrew. " I DON'T BELIVE IT!!!"
I have now completely stripped and rebuilt the engine.... Pistons out. cleaned and new rings. the head off and the valves rechecked and a little more regrinding. new 'o' rings int the carb to stop the leaks. New head gasket checked and fitted with Wellseal to help seal it down.
Turned the engine over and got water shoting out of cylinder 4 to start with then spitting out of all plug holes. Though on the plus side did have some compression to start with but back down to 50psi on all cylinders.......
Think I'll be looking for a new engine soon at this rate. >:(
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You are not having much luck there mate, I recon you must have a warped cylinder head.
Bri
Sorry to hear about your engine woes, with this many head gasket problems you might be better off with a Rover K Series. :o
Update. What's been done.
Engine was running on only 2 cyl's, so took head off to do a decoke and see if there was any other problems. 1 valve had almost burnt through its seat and a couple others were starting. Ground them back in, they are all good now.
Rebuilt the engine with new head gasket, found I was getting a lot of water in No4 cylinder and no compression.
So took the head off again checked for anything that could be stopping the gasket sealing, nothing. So put it all back together, same thing,
Removed it and rebuilt it again, this time a little compression and no water. Did a wet test with oil down the bores, that lifted the compression very slightly. (10psi at most) and water again. I've still fitted new rings as well at this point while the engine was in bits.
Removed the head again and refitted using Wellseal to try and get a good seal to the Head. No difference. So one last idea, I put the old head gasket back in (with Wellseal again) and Compression now between 135-150psi on all cylinders.
From there I refitted all the ancillaries and tried to start the engine.
I have...
1. Fuel. Pump was stripped and cleaned, lots of sludge blocking inner filter. Carb I took apart as well 50 years of muck in that to. Fitted new o rings to the brass adjuster underneath as it did leak a little
2. Compression. New rings and valves re-seated. Tested with 2 different testers
3. Spark, even ran direct wire from battery to coil
4. Timing chain wasn't touched, and ran ok before and checked since.
5. Set the carb to leanest setting and increased in small bits
6. Engine also ran for about a min but then would not restart (on Sunday), and started again yesterday but quickly died. Managed to start again this morning only for a brief time (few secs) but in that time the down pipe from the manifold I could see was glowing red !!! :o wondering if exhust pipe could be blocked. Could this be a cause?
Big Thanks to Pete again for coming over and working with me on it. :-* and Steve for the loan of the Ring compressor.
Now got mobile mechanic coming in this afternoon, MOT has been put back a day. ???
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Kick me if I'm wrong Bri, but isn't glowing exhaust a sign of mucho weak mixture i.e. 'hot & lean' ?
Just a thought, not much I know.
So much for the replacement gasket then >:(.. Sue em' for your wasted time. Hope you get a result.
It's got to be warped surely or i would get it pressure tested at least......very strange. ::)
YB - Could be I don't know :-[ but I do get wet plugs after trying to start it...
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Glowing exhaust - now thats pointing weak mixture, or ign timing to far advanced or a mixture of both, I dont think its the timing as when I set the dissy I thought it was fairly close - when it ran on Sunday it sounded pretty good and on all 4 cyl's -
have you still got good compression
still recon its fuel - make sure no leaks on inlet manifold - try for another carb from somewhere prob best idea
Mobile Mech did manage to get the car running a bit though it now feels like its back to running lumpy again but did run!
I've got the car draged down to the garage now for its test, fingers crossed. I didn't start it this morning before getting it there as it starts better when cold. Now just waiting on a phone call. :'(
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Have you thought about old/stale fuel?. I have had the same symptoms on generators and lawn mowers that have sat around for a while
ie. poor starting, running rough and glowing red hot exhaust.
Just a thought, a quick easy fix if it is ???
Thanks for the thought Ed, but I've been through a few jerry cans worth of fuel while working on the car plus I also put in yhe lead replacement additive.
No call by lunchtime, so stopped of on my way to work, to be told the tester wasn't in now today. ???
So I've got to wait another day. :'(
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Hi Brian
I've been following your thread and you have been doing everything obvious.
However your comments on the glowing exhaust reminded me of a couple of cars I had problems with.
Many years ago I was servicing a Lotus and replaced the plugs with the correct ones BUT previously the HT leads had been changed for the wrong resistor type and the combination gave all the symptoms of weak mixture that was incurable until I changed the plugs back to a non resister type.
Also one of my own cars developed a 'fuel starvation' problem. Slowing on gradients, ect ect. After changing pump, fuel lines, flushing tank, stripping the carb 5 times etc. I cured this by using plugs of a different heat range.
Check your plugs and HT leads are the old fashioned non resistor type.
Dave
Hi Dave
Now that is very interesting, I have fitted new style plugs, the triple tip type (Accuspark I think) When I get the car back I'll change them for the ones I've got in the Locost, see if that makes a difference.
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what has the mobile mech touched or altered to get it to start again ?
thought those were the original plugs from before you stripped it, if they arn't put the old ones back in - there are to many things being altered at once to denote where the problem was in the beginning and why the problems now
are you still getting good compresion ?
I agree with Pete. Best thing to do is try and get back to the original setup and change one thing at a time. Always makes it so much more difficult if you do several things at once.
JB
Well got the car down to the garage for it MoT on Wednesday and the tester was off sick ??? same again on Thursday :o He was in Friday so had a word with him, he said not testing that in that condition >:( I asked why he said it won't start, so I played for only a couple of mins and got it going even though it did run the night before I took it down. Once he heard it goign he came over and had a look noticed that 2 plug leads were around the wrong way :-[ could have sworn when I left it they weren't, so switched them back and it ran even better with no smoke even with a good rev' so he then said he'd test it. Saturday morning popped in and its in the garage workshop but not been looked at then. so now will have to wait till Monday. >:( :'(
Once it's back, will be making it pretty and getting a new hood made, then get it gone.
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Time to get a new MOT station methinks Bri?
Finally...........
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The news is good, it only failed on a lower trunion worn and a slighty freyed seat belt. So quick stop off at Moss and the new bits dropped off yesterday eve.... Hopefully done this morning. If it behaves for me I may be bringing it down to Queens Sq (Still unpainted ::) ) but a chance for a run :P
Then all I have to do is make it look pretty and a new roof (getting quote today) and thats one done. ;D
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So what was the engine problem conclusion then Bri?
To be honest... not entirely sure. Just seems to have slowly cleared up and runs a lot better could still do with a good tuning but it does run!
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MoT cert' issued today. Now to make it run nice and look pretty. :D
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congrats
I was begining to think a one way trip to the scrap yard might be neccesary on this one ;)
Spent the weekend trying to make the Gentry look a bit better at last.
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That's incredible, do you have all the spray equipment at home and do it yourself?
It's inspired me to consider spraying mine myself now!
I've got a compressor and spray gun, I've just use cellouse paints this time and still have to polish it up but it looks so much better. :P
Just got to get the engine running now. lol.
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Good work Bri :)
Getting a dab-hand at this spraying lark now eh?
Must admit, I'm glad I did mine myself, such a good feeling when it comes out OK.
Keep it up mate :D
Nice work! ;D Especially when you go back to page 1 and see what it looked like last August 8)
Well finally got there....
With just a last few bits to tighten up and attach, check bits still work and such.... It's done. ;D
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Re registered with new number as we managed to sell the original for a nice figure ;)
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Heres a reminder of the car we were working to emulate
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With any luck, we be bringing it down for Queens Square next weekend. ;D
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Sorry Wallnut, it didnt turn out like the Tractor you wanted. :P
Well done Bri! Looks good, now on to the next one then? ;) :D
So far, all I've managed to do off my jobs list is fit wipers, washers and 12V Aux socket :)
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That looks the DB's mate
Look forward to seeing it
Impressive transformation Bri, like the plate :)
:oCracking job buddy ,well done.Hope to see it on Sunday if it's dry as I got no hood on the hood.
Looks really nice
Yeah, it's gonna have to be a dry day as I've not got a hood either on the Gentry. lol. :D
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Flippin great, I knew that the fuel tank weeped. But I did have aready some sealant I had left over from the Locost build. So I made up some paste to smear over the area where it was seep was and as I did so I opened up a bigger hole and fuel started to run out in a steady steam. :'( I had to leave the plastic jerry can under until it stopped, saved over half a can of fuel :)
I've now got to wait till it dries off wipe over and try again.
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In the meantime I did some work on the exhaust, had to reseal the manifold joint as that was blowing a bit. The jobs for this afternoon is to try and seal the fuel tank and also try and get the engine running a bit better. ::)
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ARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!
Sorry everyone. I won't be driving the Gentry down to the Square tomorrow as I've now discovered that I have water in the oil, somewhere in the block water is getting through. ??? And I'm very reluctant to take the bloody head off AGAIN!!! after all I've done (and others) to try and get the thing running. :'(
Anyone know of a Triumph engine for sale cheap. Herald/Spitfire 1300/1500 prefered with carbs as not wild about the one that I have. ???
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Unlucky mate :(
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-Triumph-1300-Engine-and-gearbox-and-suspension-/180883846133?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a1d8473f5 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-Triumph-1300-Engine-and-gearbox-and-suspension-/180883846133?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a1d8473f5)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-1296-1300-MK4-MKIV-Engine-FH-Engine-Number-with-clutch-/200830525688?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ec26ea0f8 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-1296-1300-MK4-MKIV-Engine-FH-Engine-Number-with-clutch-/200830525688?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ec26ea0f8)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-1500-engine-and-gearbox-/110962232327?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d5dd4c07 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-1500-engine-and-gearbox-/110962232327?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d5dd4c07)
Here's a couple mate..
Spoke with my Guru Pete this morning straight away he said 'Head Gasket'. We had problems earlier in the year with that, tried a new one but ended up putting the old one back in as couldn't get any compresion with the new one (see earlier in this thread). Well got home took the plugs out and turned the engine over and sure enough had water coming out of No4 Cylinder again! >:( :'( So head coming off AGAIN! and I'll have to get another. followed by full oil change and new filter :'( >:( ???
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Thanks for those suggestions mate. Also looking at this as a possible on ebay, number 300781213972 claims to be able to seal almost all leaks but would probably need to have engine running at least a bit. lol. ::)
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Bri
I would not add any addictives into an engine as a cure just a get you home option, if water is finding its way into the bores there is a big failure some where and
Gum Gum is not the long term answer.
Has the head been skimmed recently?
Steve
Hi Brian
Last week I was offered a complete Herald - Cheap by my neighbour.
Will get more info next time I see him and check it runs etc....
Will PM you with more info within 24 Hours
Dave
I have a spare 1500 block and head but not carbs, it all needs a good cleanup and I don't know when they last ran, US imported spit engine so the head should be unleaded.
Thanks. I'll let you know, gonna try 1 more head gasket first. Hang on to it for now please.
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Well...............
Tried another Head Gasket in the engine and I'm still getting water out of the 4th cylinder and no compression again..... Time for a change in power plant me finks!!!! :'(
PM's sent
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do you mean the same as last time with low compressions on all cylinders again, and the same water leak into no 4 bore - bloody triumphs - what you gonna try, a different head or the whole lump
what ever you do dont touch the clutch ;D
Its out, I'm not working on that engine again. Grrrrrr!!!
Takin Paul (bluehornetrider) up on his offer of the 1500 Spitfire engine. :)
The old engine came out nice and easy, hope the new one goes in half as well.
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Go Grease Lightning. Lol
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A wise move which I'm sure you wont regret Bri..
Fast work Bri
Give me a shout when your ready to stick the new one in, I'll pop over and give you a hand - hope your gonna polish it first :D
Look okay once it's cleaned it's got about 30 years of crap stuck to it, nothing a good steam clean and paint won't fix, hope it works okay. :P
Yep its cleaning up very nicely. Used some degreasant that Pete gave me and it works a treat. ;D
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One problem that has arisen is that the flywheel on the 1500 block uses slightly larger bolts to hold it on to the end of the crankshaft... Do you recon that it would be ok to drill out the bolt holes in the flywheel to take the larger bolts? as it fits everywhere else and the flywheel for a 1500 can't be any larger due to it wouldn't fit in the bellhousing. ::)
Big thanks again to Paul for the engiine, all it needs now is to go through the head and a nice coat of paint, then fingers crossed it'll go in without to many problems and works first time. :P
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Keep at it. :). You are doing a fantastic job. Sorry I have no advise to give you re engine. Lol :P xxxx
Whilst its out (and nice 'n' clean) are you going to give it a nice coat of paint?
When I replaced my Punto GT lump I gave it a lick of paint. Looked awesome until it went in the bay!! Could only see the head ;D
I did replace the 6mm nuts with new ones :D
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Block is already cleaned and painted (on the outside) still need to give it a flush through, but its looking good already.
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Started the strip down of the head today, removed the valves. Next I'll decoke the head, then a light regrinding of the valves in their seats. ;D
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8) Looking good. Should look great when its installed..
Were double valve springs standard on these engines, or has it been breathed on?
Still will look good either way. :P
Quote from: Sumov8 on 22, October, 2012, 10:24:16 PM
Were double valve springs standard on these engines, or has it been breathed on?
Still will look good either way. :P
Double valve springs don't seem to be standard acording to the manual! :D And I was tempted to keep them for my Bulldog but I'll leave them this time, hehe. ;D
Drilled the flywheel out to take the larger bolts today and put the head back together. Just need to get another new head gasket, 2 more flywheel bolts and an oil filter and it's good to go back in.
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Blimey looks at least £200 quids worth. ;D only kidding hope it runs as good as it looks. I have a fuel pump if you need one and I found the head cover as well but it need a clean and lick of paint. Are you planning on upgrading anything whilst it's apart or keeping it standard I was looking at bits on www.jagspares.co.uk (http://www.jagspares.co.uk) whio seem very reasonable and www.canleyclassics.com (http://www.canleyclassics.com) got me the bits I ordered in 2 days. I was reading up and lots of people say that an oil feeder pipe is a good idea, at £30 I'd say it can only be a good thing but fitting an oil cooler is a waste of time.
Hehe. It does look loads better with a good clean and a lick of paint :) Thanks but I'm Ok for fuel pump and other parts as they will all come off the old engine.
I find Moss Europe in Bristol (bottom of the M32) good for parts, MG, Triumph, Healey, Mini and now MX5 bits. All off the shelf. :)
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Quote from: bulldog bri on 24, October, 2012, 08:26:59 AM
Hehe. It does look loads better with a good clean and a lick of paint :) Thanks but I'm Ok for fuel pump and other parts as they will all come off the old engine.
I find Moss Europe in Bristol (bottom of the M32) good for parts, MG, Triumph, Healey, Mini and now MX5 bits. All off the shelf. :)
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I do hope you bought your latest headgasket from somewhere else --- :) ;) :D ;D
Fraid not Pete :-[ But did check it over for any damage before fitting it. ::)
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Thanks for the help Pete, Engine now in. :D Just got to refit all the bits. :) Out of time for today :( Weekend tomorrow ;D Fingers crossed :P
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After a day of putting the last bits on and trying to start the engine with no luck :'( (even with jump leads) it just wouldn't quite fire up. I left the battery on charge all night. This morning after a couple of tries it worked, the engine fired up and kept going :P Drove it in and out of the garage and then up the back lane.
while the engine cooled, I sorted out a short circuit thats made itself known :-[ refitted the bonnet then topped up the cooling system and put some more oil in.... Fingers crossed, IT'S DONE!
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Great news Bri - spot on job
Adrian
After lots of work it will be good to see the car on the road, well done
8) nice work Bri, well done..
Yeah... Just in time for the crap weather. Lol. ???
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Interesting to follow your progress and hope all goes well with the replacement engine....
Quote from: bulldog bri on 28, October, 2012, 05:49:23 PM
Yeah... Just in time for the crap weather. Lol. ???
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But you have a roof and a heater un-like some of us :D :D :D
You could always fit a heater and a roof. :P
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DELIVERED !
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When I got up there, I fitted a new fuel filter we put some fuel in started it up then he took it for a 6 mile round trip taking in the York ring road (got it up to 55mph) I followed behind in case of problems ::) sure enough as there was only a jerry cans worth of fuel in the tank and its not the cleanest he stired up what was in there and conked out half mile from home. I dragged him back but the car refused to restart the fuel in the filter looked more like muddy water so I don't think thats gonna help but its his car now.I've suggested he dilutes it with more fuel as its impossible to drain and keep running it, when its running clearer he can then change the filter.
But in all, He loves it. :P
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Well done. So what are you going to fill up the garage space with now? :P
I'm thinking you better do Anna's car next or It's the sofa for you. ;D
Hi Bri, I noticed you stripped the valve springs out of the head, how did you do it? Do you have a special tool?
Yup, I've got the valve spring compressor, very easy to use, just take it steady. Welcome to borrow if you need to. :)
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Quote from: bulldog bri on 11, November, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
Yup, I've got the valve spring compressor, very easy to use, just take it steady.
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Just watch out for any flying collets!!! Worth doing the job inside a childs tent so you can find the missing collet.. :D
More like when the spring slips out under pressure and goes across the garage.
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I've got gaskets and valve springs but what else do I need for a basic service?
Are you going to re-cut the vavles into place? I guess you know its worth making up a cardboard template to pop the old valves etc in and mark the template. That way the same valve goes back into the same hole. Also worth giving the ports a little clean up and polish..
First you compress the springs with the compressor take out the 2 collets then the spring cap will come off, followed by the spring. After that the valve should drop out from underneth.Once you set them out as they came out as in the pic work through each set first by grinding the valve back in the head to give a good seall all the way around the valve seat. Once you have that refit the spring, compress with the cap in place, drop in the 2 collets carefully and release the pressuremake sure all the surfaces are clean before refitting the head. That should do for a basic service. I use a wire brush in a drill to clean up as much as poss' as well.
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Course and fine grinding paste and a rubber sucker tool for lapping valves in
good scraper for cleaning off old gaskets, and rotary wire brush comes in handy
feeler gauges for valve clearance
torque wrench comes in handy
Pm me if you have a problem with the tappets ;)
I have a valve grinding tool a stick with a rubber end do I need special graphite powder? If so where do I find some. I still need to get the last head bolt out as I came get a socket on to crack it, there is the rocker cover bolt nut is getting in the way. Any ideas? ???
Paste can be bought at most accssories shops. As for the head bolts have you taken off the rocker pedistals? because that should be the only thing getting in the way 3 (I think) of the head bolts. Tourqe settings for the head bolts is 45lbs rocker pedistals 25lbs.
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