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Title: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 16, August, 2015, 01:59:22 PM
Hi all,

As promised in intro thread, here are a few pics I took earlier of the as picked up condition...


(http://s8.postimg.org/ed7qh56rl/20150816_113110.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ed7qh56rl/)
(http://s14.postimg.org/57prbykst/20150816_113151.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/57prbykst/)
(http://s7.postimg.org/9zhu9j18n/20150816_113252.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9zhu9j18n/)

AVO shocks are a bonus
(http://s30.postimg.org/5l0puxqlp/20150816_113435.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5l0puxqlp/)

What I am a bit miffed about as just not the right way of doing it ...
(http://s30.postimg.org/r16mmm5f1/20150816_113528.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/r16mmm5f1/)

All of the lighting connections have been cut and butt connected, so some work to do there, plus the indicators flash too quick as the side repeaters have been disconnected, so the wrong loading on the unit. Will reinstall side repeaters and put new front indicators on...

First job, get it up in the air, and get the panels off to see what shape the chassis is in. Initial once over looks good, with just some rusting of the rear area where all of the road c**p would sit.
Need to also sort gearbox, as a Quaife 4 speed fitted, but car came with a 5 speed rocket box, so as the crank seal is leaking, lets do it all at once...

Not sure if anyone recognizes the car, as originally a Swindon car, bought by a chap from Bristol a few years ago, and I got from North Devon.. Have a lot of history up until when sold to the guy from Bristol...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 16, August, 2015, 05:56:43 PM
Good luck with it Foggy.

The flash rate can be cured by fitting an electronic relay that isn't load sensitive and then you can mix bulbs and LEDs if you wish.
The connections look well made and the loom demonstrates that it is a Westie original with the right colour code.  You could redeem the situation by tying in neatly and coating then with petroleum jell to keep them watertight.  I have seen some real horrors with just domestic wiring.  If you need to decode any wire colours let me know - I think I could identify all of them if needed.

Regards
Ian
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 16, August, 2015, 07:17:13 PM
Very nice mate. Looks like you have had your first passenger already, though he is looking a bit purple now after his experience.  8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: fletch_306 on 17, August, 2015, 09:21:29 PM
Ian are you taking about wiring on my Tiger that had a load of domestic wiring in when I purchased that!!

Looks like a good start and a nice car though.

Fletch
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 17, August, 2015, 11:29:15 PM
Have made a start on it earlier...   :o

The car is up in the air and have removed the front end bodywork... Have someone coming by next weekend to look over each of the panels to see what can be salvaged / repaired and what to change ...

Next job, get the cage front off so the rest of the body tub can be removed.

The chassis is looking quite good at the mo, just the odd bit of rust on some of the welds on the front end, so a clean / treat / repaint of any areas that need sorting.

Spare 5 speed box is off to the doctors to be given a once over as better safe than sorry.

Took a few mins to decide where to jack it up, as all this is new to me as used to a great big sump guard under the frontend!!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 18, August, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
Check the welding around the brackets that are linked to the wishbone & ARB as a few of us has had failures there.   :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 18, August, 2015, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: Moleman on 18, August, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
Check the welding around the brackets that are linked to the wishbone & ARB as a few of us has had failures there.   :)
From the pix it looks like a good old fashioned normal ARB so hopefully much less stress on the wishbone bracket.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 26, August, 2015, 12:45:10 AM
Not too much progress done at the moment... Other things taken over, or is it trying to rack up the brownie points.... :P

In with all of the paperwork that came with the car, was a couple of receipts with the original builder / owners number, so a quick call to him has explained a good few questions that we have had...

The car was built as a straight roadgoing Westie in 2005, and then the guy decided to go racing in the speed series. A new race chassis was purchased and everything swapped over and rebuilt to the championship rules. After a big accident in 2011, the car was rebuilt again using a brand new chassis and what bodywork could be salvaged. The car was then sold in 2012 when his new project was bought.

The car is currently fitted with a Tran-x 4 speed gearbox, which will be removed at some point not too long away, and be up for sale, along with the spare gearbox. Was told that it was a 5 speed only to find out that is infact a 4 speed Type E 'Rocket' according to the guy who has gone through it, telling me it is in excellent condition. Again, this will be posted in the for sale section within the next couple of weeks.

Started to order a few bits for the rebuild, like a replacement dash as no speedo fitted just a cycle computer, a speedo and new switches, as dont like the BL Mini switches.

So on the look out for a good 5 speed box, so a wanted post is going up me thinks.. Got to be someone with a spare hanging about rather than trolling eBay...

More to follow.....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 26, August, 2015, 08:00:09 PM
Good luck in finding what you need.  :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 26, August, 2015, 11:46:02 PM
Had a bit of a lucky find earlier.....

Next doors Mondeo failed MOT on emisions.....

Made him an offer on it, as he is going to scrap it  !!!!! Cheap as chips.... 2.0 ltr blacktop, low mileage... Take engine out and stick it in the corner of the garage and get a friend to wave an oily rag over it and get a few more horses out of it... No issue for me, as Westie is on a Q plate...

Run the car with the silver top thats in it for a while, then upgrade at some point.

Also get a set of alloys for my Mrs's car... lol
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 27, August, 2015, 07:25:02 AM
Nice one. A true bit of recycling so very green (other than the emissions!!)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 27, August, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
Colin wishes you luck finding what you need and look what happens!! He has the Midas touch! Hey Colin, I am doing the Euro lottery tomorrow, wish me luck please mate!  :P :P :D :D :D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 27, August, 2015, 07:39:09 PM
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 27, August, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
Colin wishes you luck finding what you need and look what happens!! He has the Midas touch! Hey Colin, I am doing the Euro lottery tomorrow, wish me luck please mate!  :P :P :D :D :D

I only wish that was true mate.  :)

Glad you managed to get one so soon foggy.  8)

Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 10, September, 2015, 06:00:13 PM
Well the Westie is now in pieces....

Stripped and ready for cleaning, cleaning and more cleaning......  :o


(http://s27.postimg.org/ijcugovvz/20150910_153559.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ijcugovvz/)

(http://s7.postimg.org/87qaoh43r/20150910_153614.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/87qaoh43r/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/np0ajvjln/20150910_153626.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/np0ajvjln/)

Started the task of buying a few bits also with the longest order times.....  :(

Really happy with how its going at the mo and bits have already started to be sent to a friend who has a powder coating system, so should hopefully not be that long before putting stuff back onto it..... 8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 10, September, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Wow that is stripped.  :o 8)  Good luck with it all.  8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 10, September, 2015, 09:27:44 PM
That's what I call thorough!

Ian
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 10, September, 2015, 11:04:54 PM
Thing is, want to use the car for speed events next year, so as we dont know the car, lets do a complete strip / rebuild.

Ordered a 5 speed HD type 9 from First Motion with uprated everything and lowered 1st, 2nd and 3rd to help with the hillclimb events. Also have ordered a complete new bolt set from Westfield, as some look as if they have been on and off the car a few times!

Trying to break apart the rear Sierra Cossie rear calipers at the mo... New seal kit ordered for when they go back togeather after being powder coated.. In red of course  :P
Front M16 calipers came apart easy, and the dust seals were crispy as anything... :-X
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 30, September, 2015, 07:43:09 AM
Have found that it was worth stripping everything back. A few of the welds were showing quite bad signs of rusting, so the whole frame has now had a clean / rust treatment where needed and a couple of coats of primer.

(http://s23.postimg.org/5df22o2kn/20150929_213740.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5df22o2kn/)

(http://s29.postimg.org/650beszlv/20150929_213756.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/650beszlv/)

Chassis is now ready for painting in black. Also added a couple of strengthening bars to the rear of the tub where the rear seat mount / spacers were fitted, as the ally panel was bent.

Had a nice present delivered yesterday also...

(http://s14.postimg.org/womil71nx/20150929_213318.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/womil71nx/)

(http://s10.postimg.org/5rw5bdqgl/20150929_213334.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5rw5bdqgl/)

They are very well done, so best get and put all the brakes back together.....

Have found someone local to repair the rear tub, and he has made a cracking job of it, so sent the side panels, the scuttle and the front lower panels to be repaired.

Also have managed to pick up a bargain... A V8 bonnet and nose cone very, very cheap, so that is there being sprayed in matt black.

One quick question ..... There are AVO's fitted and have found that the adjusters are seized on 2 of them. Any ideas on freeing them up  >:(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Camber Dave on 30, September, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
QuoteOne quick question ..... There are AVO's fitted and have found that the adjusters are seized on 2 of them. Any ideas on freeing them up  >:(

Soak them in WD 40 and work them and they may free off - but for your project I would eBay or bin them.

Get some Protech double adjusters. Damper adjustment is the final stage in perfecting the suspension to the venue. Separation of Bump and rebound  allows you to tune the wheel movement to keep the chassis stable and deliver traction on bumpy or smooth surfaces.

Come and drive my MX 5 and play with the settings to see how it works.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 30, September, 2015, 12:08:29 PM
Had them soaking in some penetrating oil supplied by last years rally sponsors (Morris) and they are free ..  ;D Happy days......

Get they sprayed up in a nice new coat of black now... And some new AVO stickers
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Brandy Barrel on 30, September, 2015, 09:27:52 PM
Envious of that full cage, looking out for a secondhand as new is solo expensive.
You wouldn't like to copy yours would you?
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Brandy Barrel on 30, September, 2015, 09:31:40 PM
Can you add strength to the chassis? Gussets in certain areas, especially suspension area.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 30, September, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Had similar problems with AVO's - WD40 alone didn't do it but a sharp tap on the top with a resin hammer released the threads instantly.  Smear them with grease when you put them back.

Regards
Ian
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 01, October, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Brandy Barrel on 30, September, 2015, 09:27:52 PM
Envious of that full cage, looking out for a secondhand as new is solo expensive.
You wouldn't like to copy yours would you?


Quote from: Brandy Barrel on 30, September, 2015, 09:31:40 PM
Can you add strength to the chassis? Gussets in certain areas, especially suspension area.


The cage is under a fair bit of debate at the moment ....

The MSA have bought out a new ruling on ROPS (Roll Over Protection) for next year, and no one can confirm that the cage, fitted by Westfield, is OK for competition next year. It should be all OK. The Westfield 'RAC' bar cannot be used because of the rose joints on the rear stay. Its only the rear that is needed, and the front is just classed as additional bracing I believe for the under 2000cc kitcar classes.
If you wanted to have a look at the cage and take measurements, then sure we could arrange something.

The chassis is a race one supplied by Westfield, and so has the additional bracing fitted under the scuttle and at the front, plus is apparently made from thinner walled steel..  :-X

Quote from: Iancider on 30, September, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Had similar problems with AVO's - WD40 alone didn't do it but a sharp tap on the top with a resin hammer released the threads instantly.  Smear them with grease when you put them back.

Regards
Ian

Was happy when had a call yesterday at work to say that they had freed up.... They are all stripped of the paint at the mo, so after getting them sprayed up in black, was thinking of getting some shock socks to cover the bottom of the units, from the bottom of the spring seat to lower side of the adjuster above the fixing point to see if that would stop any damage to the body and keep the adjuster free..

Something like this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHOCK-COVER-PROTECTEUR-DAMORTISSEUR-POLARIS-RZR-NOIR-SHOCK-COVER-SET-DE-4-/231681480484 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHOCK-COVER-PROTECTEUR-DAMORTISSEUR-POLARIS-RZR-NOIR-SHOCK-COVER-SET-DE-4-/231681480484)  Have friends in Canada...  :D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Brandy Barrel on 02, October, 2015, 08:39:04 PM
Ohh dear mines the rose jointed version, so I gotta bin that have I? It has to be fully welded now I guess!
Would love to measure the full cage if possible.
Especially as it's just classed as additional and doesn't matter who makes it.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Brandy Barrel on 02, October, 2015, 08:40:30 PM
Probably a fair amount of weight to trawl around in a full cage.
When talking power to weight its probably not a good thing.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 03, October, 2015, 07:35:04 AM
Quote from: Brandy Barrel on 02, October, 2015, 08:39:04 PM
Ohh dear mines the rose jointed version, so I gotta bin that have I? It has to be fully welded now I guess!
Would love to measure the full cage if possible.
Especially as it's just classed as additional and doesn't matter who makes it.


Brandy Barrel. Will get in touch and sort something.. I take it you are only in Chepstow according to your profile, so not far as in Coleford...
Have a read through this....
http://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic/115180-new-msa-rops-regulations/ (http://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic/115180-new-msa-rops-regulations/)

Quote from: Brandy Barrel on 02, October, 2015, 08:40:30 PM
Probably a fair amount of weight to trawl around in a full cage.
When talking power to weight its probably not a good thing.

As we are going to use the car for Speed series events, safety first, so full cage is a must....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 07, October, 2015, 05:46:36 PM
Had a good few afternoons on the car and it is looking a darn sight better ...  8)

(http://s14.postimg.org/sh12ex9v1/20151007_151752.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sh12ex9v1/)

Also all of the seal kits turned up, so started rebuilding the brakes....

(http://s9.postimg.org/cicq21wpn/20151007_143731.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cicq21wpn/)

(http://s22.postimg.org/sillr8zkd/20151007_145344.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sillr8zkd/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/dytahb5y3/20151007_151723.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dytahb5y3/)

Backs are tomorrows job....  :o
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 07, October, 2015, 07:09:45 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 07, October, 2015, 11:06:07 PM
At this rate your winter project will be done before winter kicks in.  8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 07, October, 2015, 11:18:33 PM
Quote from: sanzomat on 07, October, 2015, 07:09:45 PM
Nice!

Thanks... What was a tidy up is now a full rebuild... lol

Quote from: Moleman on 07, October, 2015, 11:06:07 PM
At this rate your winter project will be done before winter kicks in.  8)

Moleman, there are a few big bits that we are waiting to finalize... The big one is the cage... Still waiting for the Welsh Speed Championship eligibility scrutineer to call by and give his take on the cage... Spoke to Plays Kool on monday, and they were very helpful. There take on the cages are that as this was an original MSA approved race series car, the cage should be all ok for us to use, but no one can confirm this... May end up cutting the main hoop off and replacing just the hoop to the correct size and then refitting the original front back too it.. Have a shed load of repainting to do then  >:( >:(

Off to the Westfield openday end of the month, and so am hoping to ask questions direct to them...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 15, October, 2015, 04:10:45 PM
Few more bits ticked off the list of too doo's.....

(http://s21.postimg.org/9mhppqbwj/20151015_143400.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9mhppqbwj/)

(http://s27.postimg.org/dm01zr8bj/20151015_143348.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dm01zr8bj/)

(http://s7.postimg.org/v4zkc4yx3/20151015_143243.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/v4zkc4yx3/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/j32dttmln/20151015_143258.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/j32dttmln/)

Having a major issue with the cage at the mo.....

MSA are saying that the fully welded cage that is fitted to the car (38mm) is too small and has to be hacked off... A new MSA approved rear bar has to be fitted, but can use the front section...
Caged who supplied the original for the race series never homologated the cage, and so cant use it.... They have offered to supply a new one... So we have to cut off a fully welded cage, and refit a bolt in one in its place ... :o
The MSA rule book says NO ROSE JOINTS as this creates a weak spot in the transfer of stresses...
The MSA approved roll cage from Caged is exactly the same size tube as ours (38mm), and has ROSE JOINTS to fix it at the rear !!! How the chuff does that work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the MSA also have said, is that I can remove the rear bars and manufacture a hoop myself from the correct sized tube and then compete .... Madness, complete madness....  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 15, October, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
My Sympathy,

I reckon they did their training in Brussels!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 15, October, 2015, 07:41:08 PM
Foggy - I just looked up the regs and have copied the link below.  I did notice the tube has to be 3mm thick - that might be the issue.

https://www.msauk.org/assets/153191commonregulationsforcompetitorssafetyk.pdf (https://www.msauk.org/assets/153191commonregulationsforcompetitorssafetyk.pdf)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Daley Down Under on 15, October, 2015, 10:51:09 PM
MSA have always been a bunch of t***ts - ever since I first got involved with them in the early 80s road rallying as a competitior and organiser.  Anyone would think they anti- motorsport most of the time  >:(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Daley Down Under on 15, October, 2015, 10:51:48 PM
Great looking calipers by the way  8)

Cheers Adrian
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 15, October, 2015, 11:19:10 PM
Quote from: Iancider on 15, October, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
My Sympathy,

I reckon they did their training in Brussels!
Quote from: Iancider on 15, October, 2015, 07:41:08 PM
Foggy - I just looked up the regs and have copied the link below.  I did notice the tube has to be 3mm thick - that might be the issue.

https://www.msauk.org/assets/153191commonregulationsforcompetitorssafetyk.pdf (https://www.msauk.org/assets/153191commonregulationsforcompetitorssafetyk.pdf)
Iancider .. The main hoop and rear stays are 38mm x 4mm CDS tube, and so mechanically are better than needed, but because the cage was never homologated, cannot be used...

My No1 gripe is the fact that the rear stays have to be removed (They run from the top of the hoop down to the rear chassis member) and the 1" box that would normally run from the top of the rear shock mount to the rear bar has to be re-installed. The 'new MSA approved hoop' rear stays then connect to the 1" box section using a small 'U' bracket... I just dont understand how that is classed at being safer than what is currently fitted..

(http://s23.postimg.org/6n2tayr1j/20151009_150505.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6n2tayr1j/)

You can see the 1" box from the top of the rear strut top filleted into the rear stay above... This has to be the otherway around to comply with MSA..... But was also told that I can 'make my own' rear roll bar section out of the correct size tubing.. Personally, think the MSA have lost the plot on this one... Yes, there does have to be some sort of common laid down rules on this, but surely the cars could be presented to a MSA Scrutineer and given an OK or get it sorted peice of paper before you can compete on any MSA sactioned event... Looks like all of the championships was looking at may be out next year, as its £680 + Vat for an approved but in my eyes, not as strong cage...

Spoke to the sponsors with a proposal earlier, and have been told go for it... Javelin Sprintdays Championship... http://www.javelintrackdays.co.uk/trackday/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=296&Itemid=901 (http://www.javelintrackdays.co.uk/trackday/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=296&Itemid=901)

Car is 100% ready to go for this, so this is where we are now heading....  8)

Quote from: Daley Down Under on 15, October, 2015, 10:51:09 PM
MSA have always been a bunch of t***ts - ever since I first got involved with them in the early 80s road rallying as a competitior and organiser.  Anyone would think they anti- motorsport most of the time  >:(

I feel that they are going towards making it as difficult as possible for anyone to get involved at grass routes motorsport level.. We dont all have 1000's of £'s to get involved...

Quote from: Daley Down Under on 15, October, 2015, 10:51:48 PM
Great looking calipers by the way  8)

Cheers Adrian

Cheers Adrian.. Well happy with everything that the Powder Coaters has done for us... Cant wait to start throwing stuff back on the chassis..  8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 04, November, 2015, 11:35:11 PM
Been a while, but things have started to jump back onto the chassis....

After a trip to Westfield the other week to the open day, we picked up suspension bolt set, various cables and filters and so have made a start on the rebuild.

Have ordered the seats, JK Composites with red piping on the seat pads. Adjustable base on drives and fixed passengers. Depending on the seat top heights depends on what is happening with the cage... Cant afford to wait another 4 weeks to start rebuild, so decided to make a start and then when the seats are trial fitted make the cage call from there. Our cage builder has been informed and is waiting to pop by and see what he can make if needed..

The rear axle is now in but its offset - propshaft flange in the transmission tunnel .. rechecked everything and its correct  ??? Then realized after that the transmission tunnel is offset, as we had just spoke to JK about widths  :-[ Wider drivers against passengers sides...

Should start getting the front back togeather tomorrow and also the gearbox is due also, so may even make a start on getting that back in .. Maybe .. lol

A few pics to follow at some point..
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 05, November, 2015, 06:10:22 PM
Put passengers side together as a start.. Have found a few bits still need making like a few spacers, as there were washers coming out of my ears removed...

(http://s12.postimg.org/8rhat9mvd/20151105_143517.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8rhat9mvd/)

Spacer needed for the strut to axle mount

(http://s23.postimg.org/gxb3yoylz/20151105_153621.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gxb3yoylz/)

Front looking quite nice...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Gary RH7 on 05, November, 2015, 07:57:11 PM
Ah! The joy of suspension. Looking good.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 05, November, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
Don't you mean suspenders Gary??  ;D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 06, November, 2015, 02:00:43 AM
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 05, November, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
Don't you mean suspenders Gary??  ;D

Like your thinking...  ;)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: 'The Gaffer' on 06, November, 2015, 10:35:39 AM
Nice progress, keep us up to date 8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Gary RH7 on 06, November, 2015, 05:57:05 PM
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 05, November, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
Don't you mean suspenders Gary??  ;D

What these :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

(http://s9.postimg.org/len6kz7sr/6068480558_30fafa24ff_z.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/len6kz7sr/)

NO WAY!!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 06, November, 2015, 06:07:14 PM
More like this you mean???


(http://s24.postimg.org/qxc18c05t/article_2007058_0_CAF753800000578_518_468x632.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qxc18c05t/)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Lucky Ed on 06, November, 2015, 06:22:56 PM
Enough of your holiday snaps FHO ;)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Gary RH7 on 06, November, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
Quote from: Lucky Ed on 06, November, 2015, 06:22:56 PM
Enough of your holiday snaps FHO ;)

Ha Ha!! He was hoping it was something like this.

(http://s7.postimg.org/6vtll5rjr/tumblr_mim1traapx1rf0g2io1_1280.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6vtll5rjr/)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 06, November, 2015, 08:29:03 PM
How did you manage to get hold of that picture of my girlfriend Gary???  :D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Gary RH7 on 06, November, 2015, 08:34:33 PM
Last night when you were out :P
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 06, November, 2015, 08:44:17 PM
You must have the magic touch mate, she won't let me take snaps like that!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: benchmark51 on 06, November, 2015, 09:00:05 PM
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 06, November, 2015, 08:44:17 PM
You must have the magic touch mate, she won't let me take snaps like that!!!!!  :o

These will


(http://s18.postimg.org/lc1ia9ymt/kissogram.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lc1ia9ymt/)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 06, November, 2015, 09:59:58 PM
Do you mind that's my mum.  :o

Just to say it is looking good Foggy. nice to see it coming along.  :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 07, November, 2015, 11:39:58 AM
Holy thread diversion batman!

I think some more time on the naughty step may be needed...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 07, November, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
I was thinking the same ... lmao....

Compared to a few of the other forums I am on, this one is a load more easy going which is the best way... If you had put anything like those pics on you would have been banned, but we are all adults (ish) and know its all good banter  :P
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 08, November, 2015, 04:22:14 PM
Well said Foggy!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: benchmark51 on 08, November, 2015, 06:23:52 PM
I don't see anything on this forum that you can't see on Facebook, Twitter ect. You have obvious choices. Personally I don't like 'Xfactor' or 'Strictly' , therefor I don't watch them.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 09, November, 2015, 04:52:09 PM
Getting this crazy train back on track......  :P

(http://s18.postimg.org/modxhf7zp/20151106_150608.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/modxhf7zp/)

Tad more done... Ordered wrong engine mount rubbers, so another few days till the engine / gearbox go back in....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: 'The Gaffer' on 09, November, 2015, 07:40:58 PM
Quote from: foggy@smr on 09, November, 2015, 04:52:09 PM
Getting this crazy train back on track......  :P

Indeed. Although I do worry about what a couple of you guys are looking at on the net when you aren't looking at this great forum :o Gary, you are excused :)

Foggy, back to you, and your thread...   
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 09, November, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
Glad to see you didn't get too distracted mate. keep up the updates.  :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 14, November, 2015, 04:57:23 PM
Really little update...

Got a larger tank.... Spent a little while cleaning engine up... Also lads have put the front hubs back on...

(http://s11.postimg.org/n5190lv7j/20151112_192051.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/n5190lv7j/)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 18, November, 2015, 04:46:21 PM
AAAAaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh.....  :o  :o

Went to trial fit the new tank, and it dont fit... Standard tank, but with the full roll cage, the rear stays are around 5 mm too narrow...  :-X

Answer... Get the cutter out and cut an inch off the end of the tank. In being welded now  :P

On a plus note, the engine and gearbox is now together on the floor and the exchange engine mounts have turned up.. Job for the weekend me thinks.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: 'The Gaffer' on 18, November, 2015, 05:28:58 PM
Thats a bummer :(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Gary RH7 on 18, November, 2015, 09:25:30 PM
Probably one less lap on a full tank now :'(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 25, November, 2015, 07:34:01 AM
 8)  8)  8)

(http://s11.postimg.org/b4kt3odcf/20151124_220314.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/b4kt3odcf/)

(http://s1.postimg.org/3m8fgsk1n/20151124_220254.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3m8fgsk1n/)

(http://s27.postimg.org/wrtespgdr/20151124_220242.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wrtespgdr/)

And its back in ....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: 'The Gaffer' on 25, November, 2015, 10:57:17 AM
Tidy job and good progress 8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 25, November, 2015, 07:23:30 PM
Good to here mate.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 09, December, 2015, 10:12:45 AM
Been a few weeks since last update... The build is still slowly moving forward.... Amazing how long everything takes..

(http://s27.postimg.org/4zs28pk27/20151208_214432.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4zs28pk27/)

Trimmed out the cabin with some sheeting. Just needs sticking down. Made a heck of a difference to the look of the inside..

(http://s17.postimg.org/4t3h77rij/20151208_214444.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4t3h77rij/)

Plus did a trial fit of the new seats...

(http://s12.postimg.org/9sozfdjjt/20151126_184223.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9sozfdjjt/)

Still awaiting conformation from Westfield, Caged and the MSA as to the cage, and if it can be used for the speed events we want to do next year. Could not afford to wait for them to come back to us, so carry on and if all else fails we have a back up plan as to the events. Want to do the Welsh Speed and Hillclimb series, but if it all goes tits up, we will fall back on the Javelin Speed Series.... Or fork out on a replacement Caged MSA approved cage. That little silver sticker is causing soooo much trouble  >:(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 15, December, 2015, 11:59:55 PM
Deck the halls with bits of carbon... fa la la la la de do do do  :P

(http://s10.postimg.org/47lj5y0mt/20151215_154408.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/47lj5y0mt/)

(http://s16.postimg.org/vrk8ckan5/20151215_154357.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vrk8ckan5/)

That's the easy bit done... Cut the holes for the handbrake and gear lever next  :o
Going to put some thin weather seal under the carbon to stop any leaks.

Still waiting for new dash to turn up, and the scuttle to re-appear from the body shop, so have to stick the sheeting around the tub with some tiger seal next.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 18, January, 2016, 01:34:32 PM
Well its been quite a few weeks, and have slowly been moving on with the rebuild...

Major thing is that there is light at the end of the tunnel concerning the cage... MSA are saying good to go if Westfield can get it sorted their end, so here's hoping....

Went on a spending spree and have new brake and fuel lines sorted, new rear lamp clusters are on the way, body work has come back and looks the dogs, the carbon dash has arrived and is far too good to get anywhere near with a Dremel !!!!

All the silly small jobs which take the time are being ticked off the list, but what you think will take 30 mins, you can double at least, as cleaning all of the bolts and stuff as we go.. Only hoping to do this once, so do it right....

Next jobs are holes in tunnel topper for handbrake and gear lever, seats mountings and then fuel system, plus continuing to tidy wiring as we go...

Pics to follow at some point, but it dont look like anything has been done without the body work on it  ;D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 25, January, 2016, 11:17:36 PM
Bit of body work  :P

(http://s15.postimg.org/ybb9tfgo7/20160125_144723.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ybb9tfgo7/)

It is getting there  8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Gary RH7 on 26, January, 2016, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: foggy@smr on 25, January, 2016, 11:17:36 PM
Bit of body work  :P

(http://s15.postimg.org/ybb9tfgo7/20160125_144723.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ybb9tfgo7/)

It is getting there  8)
Sounds like you are doing fine Foggy. I spent ages looking at it, working out how to do it and very little time actually doing something. Got there in the end 8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 26, January, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
You know my mates - Will Power and Percy Veerance
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 26, January, 2016, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: Iancider on 26, January, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
You know my mates - Will Power and Percy Veerance
Know them well! They are really good when you get to know them but are pretty hard to master!

Great work Foggy - sure it will be done in time for the better weather!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 27, January, 2016, 11:32:21 PM
Quote from: Gary RH7 on 26, January, 2016, 07:35:08 PM

Sounds like you are doing fine Foggy. I spent ages looking at it, working out how to do it and very little time actually doing something. Got there in the end 8)

Nothing seemed to happen for ages, then putting the fuel lines and tank in this week has suddenly got it a massive step forward.

Quote from: sanzomat on 26, January, 2016, 10:25:03 PM

Great work Foggy - sure it will be done in time for the better weather!

Sure hope so... Booked into Coleford Carnival of Transport Easter Bank Holiday Monday...  8)

Had another good afternoon resulting in .....

(http://s30.postimg.org/cgnoaavcd/20160127_144438.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cgnoaavcd/)

(http://s15.postimg.org/62ghluhxj/20160127_144514.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/62ghluhxj/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/i9yyyl28b/20160127_144529.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/i9yyyl28b/)

Really think the colour scheme works well, but got to move a few of the bodywork fixings because of the change to the V8 bonnet and nosecone.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Crunchie Gears on 28, January, 2016, 08:01:16 AM
Your car is looking hot  ;D.  Easter is early this year so not long to go before you will be out and about.  :P
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 28, January, 2016, 08:17:24 PM
Hope you get it sorted real soon then mate. What is this carnival then? Tell us more we might want to join in.  :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 29, January, 2016, 12:45:05 AM
Quote from: Moleman on 28, January, 2016, 08:17:24 PM
Hope you get it sorted real soon then mate. What is this carnival then? Tell us more we might want to join in.  :)

The Coleford Carnival of Transport is the largest free show of all modes of transport within the south of England, and takes place on Easter Bank Holiday Monday (28th March this year)

The centre of town is shut down and filled with all types of cars, bikes, lorries, buses and tractors (Well we are in the country) plus different static displays of motorsports disciplines.

There is a thread already started on the forum, but would recommend to come up and view, even if not taking part.

I have been displaying the rally cars there for around 10 years, as we are sponsored by local companies, and its an ideal way of giving something back to them.

http://www.colefordcarnivaloftransport.co.uk/ (http://www.colefordcarnivaloftransport.co.uk/)

Only drawback is that the cars must be parked by 9:30 and cant be moved before 16:00.

I have already been booked in, so come and have a pick over of the car and do the, 'oooohhhh I wouldn't have done that' bit  :P :P
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 29, January, 2016, 07:41:38 PM
Thank's for the heads up.  :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 17, February, 2016, 09:46:55 AM
Well, the rebuild is moving on, but its taking forever  :(  ..

(http://s9.postimg.org/mb47fi3dn/20160216_212253.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/mb47fi3dn/)

Took most the eve, just to get the rear tub in the right place, as was really not happy with where it was originally sitting. Reinforced the lower mountings with some ally sheet to hopefully stop the same happening again, where the bolts had pulled through the panel, dropping the passengers side down.

(http://s8.postimg.org/g9sd4sprl/20160216_212243.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/g9sd4sprl/)

At least the carbon dash is looking better than it did. Made a test dash up out of some 3mm lexan sheeting, and tried a few layouts before choosing this one. But again, everything takes 3 times as long as you thought. Holes for starter / horn / ignition / steering and warning lights still to do.

On the subject of the holes, is it worth painting the cut edges with super glue. Seen a few people say about it?

With just over a month to go until the Coleford Carnival of Transport, its going to be close.......  :o
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: jmad on 17, February, 2016, 10:29:17 AM
A Bit O/T but I have a red westfield boot box and hard cover, its been moved around the garage for the last few years and I have put it in the skip yesterday :-X, if its any good to you then I can fish it out and you are welcome to it.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: benchmark51 on 17, February, 2016, 11:05:19 AM
If he doesn't, I could use it.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 17, February, 2016, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: jmad on 17, February, 2016, 10:29:17 AM
A Bit O/T but I have a red westfield boot box and hard cover, its been moved around the garage for the last few years and I have put it in the skip yesterday :-X, if its any good to you then I can fish it out and you are welcome to it.

Thanks for the kind offer bud...

Think that we have sorted a flat carbon sheet to go over at the back, so if benchmark51 can make use of it, its better off going to him rather that just having it for the sake of it...  ;D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: jmad on 17, February, 2016, 12:02:26 PM
I will dig it out tonight, I am in Taunton and you are welcome to get it anytime, or I will bring it up next time I come to Bristol.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: benchmark51 on 17, February, 2016, 03:17:42 PM
I have PM'd you  :D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 26, February, 2016, 08:53:16 PM
Had a good week on the car and it is looking more like a Westfield. .

(http://s23.postimg.org/8i2elsl5j/20160226_151150.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8i2elsl5j/)

(http://s30.postimg.org/dr8ow416l/20160226_151200.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dr8ow416l/)

(http://s28.postimg.org/8ftf2tcrt/20160226_151216.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8ftf2tcrt/)

Sorted all the brakes, but no fluid yet, fuel lines and tank plumbed in..
Front wings ready to go on and the front lower body work has returned after having some vents fitted.

Happy with the dash but switches to finish off..

Still a bit further but end is in sight :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: damouk on 26, February, 2016, 09:13:59 PM
Looking good, I can't remember has your car already been iva'd?
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 26, February, 2016, 09:19:32 PM
Got a glimpse of the seats - Superb!

Great progress - should speed up when you can feel your fingers again!

Ian
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 27, February, 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Quote from: damouk on 26, February, 2016, 09:13:59 PM
Looking good, I can't remember has your car already been iva'd?

Yes it is on a Q plate and it currently has mot also.

Quote from: Iancider on 26, February, 2016, 09:19:32 PM
Got a glimpse of the seats - Superb!

Great progress - should speed up when you can feel your fingers again!

Ian

The seats are very comfortable despite looking flimsy... Cost a few quid but worth it...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 27, February, 2016, 09:29:09 PM
Coming together really well. You got a nice shine on the grp.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: 'The Gaffer' on 28, February, 2016, 12:08:47 PM
Good progress, hope you have a log burner in the garage :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 07, March, 2016, 11:26:29 PM
And onto another week of nightshifts, which means more time to work on the car.....

(http://s9.postimg.org/itf4sftiz/20160307_151711.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/itf4sftiz/)

So much better than the original layout ...

(http://s10.postimg.org/f4a1m60np/20160307_151726.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/f4a1m60np/)

Back end wiring next on the list ...

(http://s28.postimg.org/to8sr5gdl/20160307_155731.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/to8sr5gdl/)

Knew the old Saxo tarmac rally rims would come in useful ... New set of boots needed though, as not a massive amount of tread left on the road legal slicks !!!  :o  :o  8)

Cateringvan CXR front wings look better than the original rounder ones from the factory I think.
Took an age to get the rear wings to look correct, as when it was racing, the car had a large shunt which damaged the tub and twisted it, so a load of messing to get it right, but it was worth it, as it looks soo much better than it was.

Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 28, February, 2016, 12:08:47 PM
Good progress, hope you have a log burner in the garage :)

It was nice to be able to have the garage door open to work on the car Monday. Made a change from strip lights all the time :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: 'Mendip Wurzel' on 08, March, 2016, 08:06:41 PM
Very neat workmanship....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 08, March, 2016, 08:11:05 PM
Agreed - very smart!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 08, March, 2016, 09:32:50 PM
Love the dash! Can you reach the 'big red key' from the drivers seat when fully strapped in tight? I have the one in my Fury in about the same position and I can't reach it with my harness on!!! It's always bothered me.

The other thing I found was that when in the 'on' position, it wa very easy for a passenger's knee to accidentally hit the key and turn it 'off'!! I need to turn it through 90 degrees I think.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 08, March, 2016, 11:46:04 PM
Quote from: 'Mendip Wurzel' on 08, March, 2016, 08:06:41 PM
Very neat workmanship....

Quote from: Iancider on 08, March, 2016, 08:11:05 PM
Agreed - very smart!

Thanks guys.... Policy always has been, do it right first time, even if it does cost a tad more..... At the end of the day, we want to use the car competitively later in the year, with a full attack on probably the Welsh Speed Series in 2017

Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 08, March, 2016, 09:32:50 PM
Love the dash! Can you reach the 'big red key' from the drivers seat when fully strapped in tight? I have the one in my Fury in about the same position and I can't reach it with my harness on!!! It's always bothered me.

The other thing I found was that when in the 'on' position, it was very easy for a passenger's knee to accidentally hit the key and turn it 'off'!! I need to turn it through 90 degrees I think.

FHO, tried it on the temp dash I made up, and moved it a few times to get it in the right place... Originally it was right over to the left of the dash, and only the passenger or anyone outside could reach it! Need it that way, so if anything does happen you can just push it and it naturally turns its self off... Just have to stick a gert big sticker by it, which will spoil the look of the dash, but hey ho....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 10, March, 2016, 08:42:28 PM
I don't think my knees would reach the key Steve. Come to think of it neither would my feet.  :(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 11, March, 2016, 11:05:21 AM
Quote from: Moleman on 10, March, 2016, 08:42:28 PM
I don't think my knees would reach the key Steve. Come to think of it neither would my feet.  :(

;D ;D

In the Fury my 16 year old son's knees kept touching the key as I was doing about XXXmph one day! I was getting very worried at times!! But then he is taller than me now!!!!

I can't actually reach the key when I am strapped in though which was also a worry.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 11, March, 2016, 06:04:45 PM
A great week of working on the car, has resulted in this .......

(http://s21.postimg.org/qfwqcto1v/20160311_162718.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qfwqcto1v/)
(http://s23.postimg.org/x46gz5ytj/20160311_162802.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/x46gz5ytj/)
(http://s11.postimg.org/qojil2d8f/20160311_162750.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qojil2d8f/)

Cant start it as have found that the kill switch is faulty, so new one ordered..

(http://s11.postimg.org/y61wrrhj3/20160311_162734.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/y61wrrhj3/)

Still a few more small jobs, but most have already been done, and just need putting on the car.. Nose needs moving forward a fraction, so the bonnet fits better.

Comments as always welcome :D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 11, March, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
Looking great - will we see it in the flesh soon?
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 11, March, 2016, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: sanzomat on 11, March, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
Looking great - will we see it in the flesh soon?

Hope to be at Coleford Carnival of Transport at the end of the month for a start, and try get to a meet also..
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 11, March, 2016, 08:53:42 PM
Sounds like the kill switch was too effective!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 23, March, 2016, 11:42:57 PM
Another week of nights and no sleep going along nicely....  :'(

Managed to get the brakes sorted finally. Problem with a leaking caliper sorted, and then a joint not 100% tight resulted in a very quick clean up...  :o

Sorted the dodgy electrics. After replacing the kill switch, found that it was wired incorrectly when we bought the car. Had to do a quick rewire of the ignition circuit to got through the spade terminals on the switch, as it was all bypassed for some reason....

So took the plunge earlier, filled the cooling system, put some fuel in and turned it all on... No fuel leaks, so pressed the starter button.... ITS ALIVE !!!!!

Decided it may be a good idea to refit the exhaust then, so that little job done, and restarted it. Tick over is way too fast, as the new Westfield throttle cable is too short.. Ggggrrrrrrr  Have to make one up tomorrow.

Water leak !! The new thermostat housing seal is leaking like a good un... Replace that tomorrow as well....

Jobs for tomorrow are growing longer...
Sort water leak.
Sort throttle cable.
Drill holes in dash to screw to scuttle.
Fit rest of bodywork.
Fit the new bonnet catches.
Refit the belts.
Fit the trim to the boot cover.
Fit roll cage back on.
Fit the new mirrors onto the cage.
Check tyres and put on.
Drop off the axle stands.
Drive outta garage if it can  :o

If all that can be sorted tomorrow, that means that can give it a test up the road on Friday ... If its not raining ......
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Moleman on 24, March, 2016, 10:46:30 PM
Looking good now. I was going to go to Coleford Carnival of Transport but I'm off the road now so I will see you some other time.  ::) :)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 24, March, 2016, 11:18:43 PM
Update ..

Jobs for tomorrow are growing longer...

Sort water leak. - DONE
Sort throttle cable.  - DONE
Drill holes in dash to screw to scuttle.  - DONE
Fit rest of bodywork.  - DONE
Fit the new bonnet catches.
Refit the belts.
Fit the trim to the boot cover.
Fit roll cage back on. - GOT NEW BOLTS
Fit the new mirrors onto the cage.
Check tyres and put on.
Drop off the axle stands.
Drive outta garage if it can  :o

Got a few of the jobs knocked off the list, but need to adjust the nose a tad more to get bonnet fitting correctly

Quote from: Moleman on 24, March, 2016, 10:46:30 PM
Looking good now. I was going to go to Coleford Carnival of Transport but I'm off the road now so I will see you some other time.  ::) :)

As it stands, its looking very much 50/50 that will get the car there... Still waiting for bits ordered over a week ago to turn up, and phone calls have shown they have been sent...  >:(

Going to have another go at it on Friday, but don't get home from work till 8:30 in the morn, and need at least a few hours kip. Weekend is already tied up with other stuff, so will make the call Friday afternoon...

If Easter was no so early this year ........  :'(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 01, April, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
Well, we didn't make Carnival on Bank Holiday Monday, due to parts not turning up....  >:(

But had the call that we didn't want over the weekend.... The cage is not usable in any MSA sanctioned events events, due to the factory making the cages out of T49 not CDS steel...  :'( :'(

This means that the rear cage needs to cut from the frame, and an approved cage bolted back in its place. Sounds simple, but the rear of the race cars is different to the standard chassis, as the rear stays of the bar go right to the frame, where the normal one fits to a bracket on the rear frame tube.

Chatting to a few people to get prices at the mo, so the car is now stripped ready to go off and be sorted..........
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 02, April, 2016, 10:57:59 PM
That does sound nuts or like a restrictive practice. 
Will they limit the maximum speed to one that CDS bars car withstand or will accidents be standardised so the the bar always survives?  Or maybe a track marshall will raise a placard that says "Accidents permitted here only"  :D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 04, April, 2016, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Iancider on 02, April, 2016, 10:57:59 PM
That does sound nuts or like a restrictive practice. 
Will they limit the maximum speed to one that CDS bars car withstand or will accidents be standardised so the the bar always survives?  Or maybe a track marshall will raise a placard that says "Accidents permitted here only"  :D

It is silly, and I know that this MSA ruling has now stopped quite a few from competing, plus caused a few to be excluded from events already !!!!

We had a feeling that this was going to happen, as we have been waiting for around 5 months for a reply to the questions that have been asked to both the MSA and Westfield. The MSA came back quickly, but Westfield were very quiet.

Looks like a full Caged cage will be put on with the all important silver MSA sticker, but just getting the costings sorted for supply and we fit, or take for factory fitting at Caged in Frome...

It was very disheartening last week stripping the car back to chassis, so that the welding can be done....  :'(

Not taxing it this month, so set a new date of May Bank Holiday to get the thing out on the road, then a case of getting suspension set up, and getting it rolling road tuned, as it has been sat for a few years before we bought it....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 14, April, 2016, 04:58:24 PM
Got the car ready to now go and have its new cage fitted at Caged Laser in Frome...

Really hacked off that had to strip a lot of the back-end of the car off, because of the cutting and welding that needs doing...  :(

On a positive note, have got the thing down off the axle stands and pushed outside so that can clean the garage floor properly...  :D

(http://s21.postimg.org/vx5zx4h2b/20160414_151413.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vx5zx4h2b/)

(http://s16.postimg.org/pdy9vsvo1/20160414_151436.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pdy9vsvo1/)

(http://s30.postimg.org/i2h2y0mal/20160414_153332.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/i2h2y0mal/)

Well happy with the look of it, but the tyres are shot and need replacing with something a tad better for normal road / trackday use.
When sprinting, R888R's will more than likely go on the 13" rims
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Gary RH7 on 14, April, 2016, 05:31:58 PM
Love the mat black, Cool 8)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 14, April, 2016, 09:57:38 PM
Yep, a properly nice looking motor mate, well done on that one!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 14, April, 2016, 11:37:22 PM
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 14, April, 2016, 09:57:38 PM
Yep, a properly nice looking motor mate, well done on that one!
Quote from: Gary RH7 on 14, April, 2016, 05:31:58 PM
Love the mat black, Cool 8)

Cheers guys for the compliments....

Was a tad worried about the matt bonnet and nose alongside the gloss wings, but think it works well..

Just a pity that we have to wait till may bank holiday to get the cage sorted, then get it back on the Friday. Have a week to get it sorted then, as its been loaned out to do a school prom run !!!  :o

Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 15, April, 2016, 11:40:09 PM
It certainly does work well

Ian
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 01, May, 2016, 12:52:55 PM
And she is off to have full cage fitted...

(http://s32.postimg.org/s2evg8h1t/20160429_093139.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/s2evg8h1t/)
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 03, May, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
Hope all goes well!
Ian
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 06, May, 2016, 08:06:20 PM
And it's back ......  :D

(http://s32.postimg.org/9yzt68h35/20160506_174221.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9yzt68h35/)

Got to get it back together now..
Cage is excellent, but a tad annoyed with damage to the bodywork and loads of over spray from the welding..  >:(

Had a chat when we picked it up and came to an arrangement.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Facial Hair Optional on 06, May, 2016, 09:17:07 PM
Looks great!

Hope they compensated you for their sloppiness re overspray etc?
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 07, May, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 06, May, 2016, 09:17:07 PM
Looks great!

Hope they compensated you for their sloppiness re overspray etc?

Yes the main man Dan was very apologetic and took lots of pictures, and is going to speak to the guys concerned next week.
We think we can get around the bodywork possibly, and the galvanising spray eventually came off the calipers...
It's just annoying that we spent time, effort and money to get the car to a very high standard, and for a little thinking about, Caged could have saved the marks and over spray buy using sheeting on the car.
Overall, happy with what they have done, but they need to make sure that they are a tad more careful.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 09, May, 2016, 05:46:20 PM
Had a good day today and very close now...

(http://s32.postimg.org/fe4agx51d/20160509_143812.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fe4agx51d/)

(http://s32.postimg.org/3z3ohxk8x/20160509_143759.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3z3ohxk8x/)

And it's all because this was missing from the other cage . >:(

(http://s32.postimg.org/mnmn8091d/20160507_110903.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/mnmn8091d/)

Just the boot lid, change tyres and tax to go, and then try it up the road between rain showers.....  :P
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: nojjer on 11, May, 2016, 08:02:37 AM
Awesome project thread, interesting to read and see what you have done
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 12, May, 2016, 01:17:27 AM
Quote from: nojjer on 11, May, 2016, 08:02:37 AM
Awesome project thread, interesting to read and see what you have done

Thanks for that nojjer

Latest update ....

Boot lid is done, and looks not too bad...

(http://s32.postimg.org/ws3498jpd/20160511_171436.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ws3498jpd/)

Ready to drop it off the axle stands to take out, when noticed oil drops on the floor under the gearbox from filling it yesterday...
Thought it was overspill that we didnt dry off...  Bad news.... Gearbox casing has a crack in it.  :o

Spoke to First Motion, who supplied gearbox, and he assured me that it was checked before shipping, so it looks like it may have been dropped by the courier...
Result is now, engine and box out and send away to be checked.... So close to getting it out of the garage as well....

(http://s32.postimg.org/usnw3y475/20160511_171317.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/usnw3y475/)

Had a call before work at 10, to say that the hoist had turned up earlier, and the boys got engine and box on the floor!!

Get it packed later today to go back.

Feeling ready fed up now  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: nojjer on 12, May, 2016, 07:05:03 AM
The boot cover looks great., will need to attempt something like this myself.
Gutted for you in regards to the gearbox, what options does this leave you with? source a new one or can it be a repair job?
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 12, May, 2016, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: nojjer on 12, May, 2016, 07:05:03 AM
The boot cover looks great., will need to attempt something like this myself.
Gutted for you in regards to the gearbox, what options does this leave you with? source a new one or can it be a repair job?

Happy with the boot lid, and bought some thumb screws to make removal easier when scrutineering at events..

Spoke to gearbox supplier again earlier, and they are supplying a courier to pick up box and get it too them for repair as he has spare casings...
He has said he will try to turn it around ASAP.

(http://s32.postimg.org/a9820d8qp/20160512_150755.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/a9820d8qp/)

Looking sad for itself...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 12, May, 2016, 09:54:22 PM
Quotebought some thumb screws to make removal easier when scrutineering at events

Are the thumb-screws for the scrutineers? :o
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 12, May, 2016, 09:56:37 PM
Might as well attach the gearbox with thumbscrews it its going to go in and out that often :( Thinking about getting some for my engine mounts...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 13, May, 2016, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: sanzomat on 12, May, 2016, 09:56:37 PM
Might as well attach the gearbox with thumbscrews it its going to go in and out that often :( Thinking about getting some for my engine mounts...

Hope that this is the last time! How its going at the mo, I will miss all the good weather  :P

Quote from: Iancider on 12, May, 2016, 09:54:22 PM
Quotebought some thumb screws to make removal easier when scrutineering at events

Are the thumb-screws for the scrutineers? :o

Sometimes you feel like you need them .. lol ... Have met the odd one that are awkward, but normally the guys are very helpful and are there to make sure that everyone is safe.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 19, May, 2016, 01:51:11 PM
Great news.....

Call from the Paul at First Motion....

Gearbox sorted and will be back Friday....

Water pump being done later as the engine is out, stick it all back together and get it back out on the road next week  :P  :P  :D

That means a sorry from me folks, as its going to rain from now on .... LOL
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 20, May, 2016, 05:02:59 PM
QuoteThat means a sorry from me folks, as its going to rain from now on .... LOL

We covered that risk and had it rain for months so that it is all rained-out ready for you to get on the road!

Sunshine only from now on!

Could you Join us at the Riverside on 3rd June?  It would be good to see you there!
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 23, May, 2016, 05:51:30 PM
Had a quick hour on the car earlier, so box refitted to block, and ready to put back in tomorrow...

Will look into the Riverside event, as need to get some road mileage on the thing... Also need to look into some trackdays to see how the thing drives.....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 25, May, 2016, 11:56:16 PM
FINALLY........

After 8 months of blood, sweat and loads of swearing the car hit the road ....  8)  8)

(http://s33.postimg.org/6vjouo60b/20160525_161053.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6vjouo60b/)

(http://s33.postimg.org/weuva1017/20160525_161123.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/weuva1017/)

Found a few small issues, mainly that the fuel gauge don't work, not 100% sure the fan cuts in and a high level brake light is needed, as my bud following to make sure all was ok, says it needs it as its easy to miss the brake lights, even though they are bright....

Get a few miles on the clock to bed everything in and then start looking for trackdays to see how the thing goes....

Was surprised how laid back the driving position was, but after a couple of miles it felt really comfy and the gearbox is lovely. Really close on the change.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: sanzomat on 26, May, 2016, 01:26:03 PM
Looks great. Really glad its sorted now. Only thing is someone's nicked your steering wheel...
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: Iancider on 31, May, 2016, 09:53:08 PM
Lovely job and well done - hope to see you at Classic Kit and retro Action day June 25th at Combe perhaps!  Or maybe sooner at the Riverside This Thursday?
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 24, September, 2016, 02:03:30 PM
Hi all...

Been a long time since posting due to job issues.... Basically i didn't have one lol....

After getting the car finished and on the road, was told my job was ending, so car was left and job searching took priority.

Now I am working again, then back to the car...

Found after a couple of hundred miles, that its running very very rich and doing approx 10 mpg!

After some digging around took the car to Moseleys Rolling Road in deepest darkest south wales to get it sorted, as most people I spoke too wanted to know 'what were carbs'  :o

First power run showed that it was indeed running rich, and struggling. Lean on 1 + 3, rich on 2 + 4. Also that the carbs were out of balance. Happy with the 155 BHP though  :)
After a fiddle with the jets, balance and a tweek to fuel pressure regulator, a second run showed a much better curve of power and 165 BHP  :o

A full speed run was then suggested, so off she went.. 125 and still pulling in 4th, the rad cap let loose, so never got into 5th :(  Well impressed though ..

Car runs soooo much nicer now, so just booked first trackday at Llandow for 8th Oct to go see if can scare ourselves .....
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: benchmark51 on 24, September, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
Good luck with the new job, know what it's like without work. Retired now, never been so busy. All the stuff you were going to do if only you had time seems to multiply and it's non stop now!

I had a play with my carbs as it seemed a tad thirsty, put in 110 mains to see what would happen. Starts well, goes well up to 2/3 throttle and then dies. Put 120's in and all's well, starts and pulls well. Chickened out at 120 + mph as some numpty put a ruddy great round-a-bout in the road! The original mains were 125's and I had sooty plugs all the time. They are the correct colour now though. I have balanced the carbs using a set of 4 vacuum gauges on the vac ports (dellorto). Now if I want to save fuel, I need to discipline my right foot.
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: foggy@smr on 02, November, 2016, 09:19:12 PM
Hi all.... New job is getting in the way of posting on here now ... lol  :P

Well managed to get a trackday in at Llandow circuit a few weeks ago, and was well impressed with the car straight out of the box...

A small water leak from the bottom rad hose caused a few issues early long, and the borrowed rad cap worked well, as the ordered one had not turned up....

(https://s22.postimg.org/n0fdemh8t/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n0fdemh8t/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/p7n8q56oh/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/p7n8q56oh/)
(https://s22.postimg.org/t9cdam4st/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t9cdam4st/)

Decided to take it steady for the first few laps, and then slowly build up the speed, as it was the first real test of the car.

After the first session of around 10 laps, decided that a slight brake adjustment was needed, so came in and put slightly more bias to the front. Much better, and the M1144's work well with the M16 calipers...

The R888R's have loads of grip, and felt that we never got to the point where their lost grip, but wasnt pushing too hard... Managed to do quite a bit of overtaking during the day, and def were no where near the slowest out there.

(https://s17.postimg.org/69pza8qp7/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/69pza8qp7/)

Managed to get approx 40 miles under our belts, when there was a whirring nose followed by a bang....  :o

Pulled over to the side, and slowly drove back to the pits. A quick look showed that something had come loose in the bell housing...

(https://s16.postimg.org/qfpkiqse9/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qfpkiqse9/)

Chucked the thing back on the trailer and came away feeling that despite the damage, we had a lot more positives than negatives..

Engine and box have been taken out, and our initial thought that a clutch plate bolt had come out was wrong. It was a bell housing to gearbox bolt !!

Turns out that the rear gearbox mount, that we checked and thought was ok, had turned to jelly and was causing the box to twist and undoing the bolts.

Damage inside was a smashed pressure plate and a badly damaged bell housing.

(https://s13.postimg.org/5i2m166yr/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5i2m166yr/)
(https://s14.postimg.org/bzrjetcvx/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bzrjetcvx/)

A friend of ours has taken the task of repairing the bell housing, a new pressure plate has been ordered along with new bolts and mount...

Will let you all know how we get on...  ;D
Title: Re: New, to me, Westie... Needs some love
Post by: benchmark51 on 03, November, 2016, 10:20:57 AM
Oh dear, that's a shame. Would have p'eed me right off! Thread lock and tab washers now?