Evening all (or morning all),
I've started another new project. Picked up a Suzuki Swift GTI compliant Mini subframe, engine, gearbox, etc, etc locally and have decided to drop it in the red Moke. I say drop in - it might be a little more difficult than that but have to have a go. 100bhp and 5 speeds + free revving 16v - what's not to like.
Here's a few pics of the old and new (and the space it has to fit in).
Cheers Adrian
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Like a lot. :P
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Quote from: Bulldog Bri on 14, September, 2015, 05:19:55 PM
Like a lot. :P
8)
Thanks Bri - will let you all know how things progress over the coming months
Cheers Adrian
Good luck with it, hope it all goes without any problems. :)
Quote from: Moleman on 14, September, 2015, 10:07:18 PM
Good luck with it, hope it all goes without any problems. :)
Thanks Colin,
I'm sure there'll be plenty of problems (I like to call them challenges) but that's half the fun.
Cheers Adrian
That's going to keep you busy for a few weeks Adrian.....good luck with your "little" project. ;)
Tony
Quote from: paintman on 14, September, 2015, 11:22:54 PM
That's going to keep you busy for a few weeks Adrian.....good luck with your "little" project. ;)
Tony
Thanks Tony - just a few. Summer's coming (although I might miss out on this one). Still got the black Moke and the TVR though for open top fun.
Cheers Adrian
I like that Ideal, nice one A 8)
Have fun
Quote from: Hairy Santa on 15, September, 2015, 12:12:06 PM
I like that Ideal, nice one A 8)
Have fun
Thanks Pete - see if I can live up to expectations. Pop over and I'll take you for a spin :D
Cheers Adrian
A Moke with Poke!
Nice 8) 8) 8)
Quote from: Iancider on 15, September, 2015, 10:51:50 PM
A Moke with Poke!
Nice 8) 8) 8)
Ian - there's a guy over here who's fitting a 2.0 VTEC in one. Now that should be one quick car.
Cheers Adrian
Quote from: Daley Down Under on 15, September, 2015, 10:57:10 PM
Quote from: Iancider on 15, September, 2015, 10:51:50 PM
A Moke with Poke!
Nice 8) 8) 8)
Ian - there's a guy over here who's fitting a 2.0 VTEC in one. Now that should be one quick car.
Cheers Adrian
Bonkers, but great fun. Good luck shoehorning the new engine in 8)
Quote from: Lucky Ed on 15, September, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Daley Down Under on 15, September, 2015, 10:57:10 PM
Quote from: Iancider on 15, September, 2015, 10:51:50 PM
A Moke with Poke!
Nice 8) 8) 8)
Ian - there's a guy over here who's fitting a 2.0 VTEC in one. Now that should be one quick car.
Cheers Adrian
Bonkers, but great fun. Good luck shoehorning the new engine in 8)
There will definitely be some shoehorning involved. Here's the list so far:
Inlet manifold needs shortening/raising.
Inner wings need a degree of butchery.
Driveshafts need to be cut and welded (Mini outers and Suzuki inners).
Radiator (I'll probably keep the alloy Moke one but fit the Suzuki thermofan).
Gear selector rods (will need shortening and attaching)
and 100's of other small relocation jobs
Cheers Adrian
Just spotted this project Adrian. Looks like fun, when it's finished anyway ;D
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 20, September, 2015, 12:15:19 PM
Just spotted this project Adrian. Looks like fun, when it's finished anyway ;D
I agree Phil - hope you're feeling patient :)
Cheers Adrian
New owners came and picked up the 1100 engine today so I had a bit of time under the carport. Built myself a body lift out of 50x50x3 angle (less than 50GBP all up). Works a treat - all ready for subframe swap after collection this weekend.
Cheers Adrian
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Was that the kids Swing frame your using? ::)
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Well yesterday the kids got their own back on my flippin' ASBO Brian!! Sore subject!!!! >:( ;D
Quote from: Bulldog Bri on 21, September, 2015, 10:19:54 AM
Was that the kids Swing frame your using? ::)
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Wondered why they had long faces Bri :D
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 21, September, 2015, 10:33:19 AM
Well yesterday the kids got their own back on my flippin' ASBO Brian!! Sore subject!!!! >:( ;D
Such a great new car and such a bas**rd of a result. Lots of great times ahead though :D
Cheers Adrian
That is very true Adrian. I went into the garage late last night on my own to talk to the car (sad eh?). I had another look at the marks though the light was poor so will be checking again today. They are small but some are very deep, right through the powder coat to the metal and identical on BOTH sides of the car, that alone makes me wonder about who, how and why they did it.
To go that deep takes some doing, it doesn't mark or scratch as easily as a painted panel from what I can tell. I will see if I can get them patched up but in any case I will not let it spoil my enjoyment of the car. I am sure some will see the scratches and think 'what is all the fuss about?' but if some guy with a Porsche had got even the tiniest mark on his lovely car I'm sure he's had gone berserk. My car to me, is no different than his is to him and that was the very 1st meet I had been to it in. Not good. I actually had bad dreams about it last night too, in fact it kept me awake half the bloody night! :(
Thanks for your positive thoughts, much appreciated 8) 8)
We don't want to know what kept you up the rest of the night :o
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"To go that deep takes some doing, it doesn't mark or scratch as easily as a painted panel from what I can tell. I will see if I can get them patched up but in any case I will not let it spoil my enjoyment of the car. "
How about covering the affected areas with vinyl wrap? Comes in all sorts of colours/designs and sticks pretty well. Comes off when you want it to as well. Would provide some protection from future marks.
It is pretty cheap as well.
It's a thought Dave, especially as the deep ones are all on the tube that you climb over to get in the car. I think maybe a kid was hanging over the edge with a belt on or something like that, the bars are too low for an adult to lean over them. Exact same mark both sides, seems very likely to me.
Maybe a bit high quailty carbon fibre wrap would give future protection from idiots and my shoes as I climb over! I kinda worry it would change the look and image of the car, but on the other hand it might look great. I'll investigate.
As I've said before, they are tiny marks but upsetting on such a beautiful car none the less. I bought her mainly for her looks and not her speed believe it or not, so having damage done hurts all the more, particularly as I am having to give up so much to get her.
You can get the carbon fibre effect in red too.
Might look nice. I will make a note of where all the marks are and then decide if CF is an option. Will talk to the guy who powder coated it too.
Have been taking a few pics just now for Tony at the ADC. He is gonna send out an email to all members about being more careful etc.
Nicely done Adrian. 8) Love the picture Bri.
FHO the wrap sounds perfect mate & ps stop stealing people's thread. :)
oops, sorry Col! :(
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 22, September, 2015, 06:52:14 PM
oops, sorry Col! :(
So now go sit on the naughty stair. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I've been sat there for the last 2 hours Dave waiting for someone to tell me I can get off it now!!
That is funny but you are doing it again so you better stay on the naughty step just a little longer. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bit more progress over the weekend. I now have the modified donor subframe and have done a trial fit with the engine (see pics). Next step is to get hold of a rare Mk1 manifold, AFM and throttle body which gives me a fighting chance of clearing the bulkhead once I cut the inner wings away.
Cheers Adrian
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Nice work Adrian 8)
Certainly is! Trouble is though, you have too much space and the workshop is too clean. GRRRR lol
Does look a neat tidy little motor :P
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Quote from: benchmark51 on 07, October, 2015, 10:50:52 AM
Certainly is! Trouble is though, you have too much space and the workshop is too clean. GRRRR lol
Also full of mozzies and 80 degrees + on Sunday
Quote from: Bulldog Bri on 07, October, 2015, 11:44:48 AM
Does look a neat tidy little motor :P
8)
Not quite little enough Bri :D
Spent a bit of time on the red Moke today (removing the old front subbie). Everything is now ready for trial fitting of the 16v Swift motor (once I get the suspension etc transferred across). Give it another couple of weeks :D
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Looking good Adrian!! ;)
Bet your Missus loves you doing these "little" projects in your spare time......lol :D
Quote from: paintman on 01, November, 2015, 05:35:17 PM
Looking good Adrian!! ;)
Bet your Missus loves you doing these "little" projects in your spare time......lol :D
Thanks Tony - youngest lad is helping out now so I get all the time I need :D
Cheers Adrian
BIG achievement late this afternoon ;D ;D ;D ;D
Engine is in (albeit supported on wooden blocks) and the older Mk 1 inlet manifold clears the bulkhead a treat. I had to take the headlight out to get sufficient clearance for the timing belt cover but we'll worry about that later. Good news is that everything seems to have plenty of clearance.
One potential challenge to be overcome is the alternator location which may be a bit close to tyre on full lock. Other than that and a redundant lug on the gearbox casing which I need to grind off its all systems go.
Well pleased ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers Adrian
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Glad to hear your winning Adrian!
Your have it finished before Xmas. ;D ;D
Great work, you must be chuffed with how well it fits 8)
Wow I loved those pics Adrian. The pics of the front brought back happy memories of when Diana Rigg of Avengers fame and just three feet away from me stepped out of her Moke in her skin-tight cat-suit
Happy days! :-*
Quote from: paintman on 29, November, 2015, 07:11:22 PM
Glad to hear your winning Adrian!
Your have it finished before Xmas. ;D ;D
Just wondering which Christmas Tony :D
Cheers Adrian
Quote from: Lucky Ed on 29, November, 2015, 08:00:38 PM
Great work, you must be chuffed with how well it fits 8)
So far so good Ed - trouble is there's a lot more stuff to fit in yet (exhaust manifold, radiator, brake servo, induction pipework, air filter, etc, etc, etc. Coming on nicely though.
Do need to fit some aircon in the workshop - nearly 80 degrees out there today.
Cheers Adrian
Quote from: Iancider on 29, November, 2015, 09:37:17 PM
Wow I loved those pics Adrian. The pics of the front brought back happy memories of when Diana Rigg of Avengers fame and just three feet away from me stepped out of her Moke in her skin-tight cat-suit
Happy days! :-*
Not sure the memories of the Moke would be so vivid without the catsuit :D
Cheers Adrian
Looks great Adrian, should be somewhat quick as well 8)
Thanks Phil - certainly quicker than the old motor ;D
G'day all,
Another good weekend under the carport on the progress front. The engine is now bolted to the 3 x mounts (I hope its not coming out again :D). I will have to modify the headlamp bowl as I have ended up with approx. 25mm interference but at least the alternator problem has gone away - just need a longer belt.
However, as one problem disappears another emerges. The 4-2-1 exhaust manifold that came with the engine package is too big to fit between the block and the grille - I have max 100mm (allowing for 10mm clearance) and I need 160mm to use the 4-2-1 manifold (unmodified). I'll be getting the angle grinder out (again) tonight to start attacking it. I reckon with a bit of adjustment and re-welding I can get it to fit.
Watch this space
Cheers Adrian
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Good work Adrian. How are you going to manage the cooling, I presume it's going to produce quite a bit more heat?
Quote from: Lucky Ed on 07, December, 2015, 08:11:29 AM
Good work Adrian. How are you going to manage the cooling, I presume it's going to produce quite a bit more heat?
Thanks Ed - I had a 2" alloy rad when the A Series motor was in there. That worked well - I will mount the rad in the space to the right of the engine (but more front facing) and use the thermofan from the Swift GTI that came with the engine package. See how that goes.
Cheers Adrian
Square peg in a round hole comes to mind Adrian. Great update and amazing work for getting it in at all ;D
I'm sure a man of your skills and an angle grinder will make short work of the rest!!
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 07, December, 2015, 09:12:03 AM
Square peg in a round hole comes to mind Adrian. Great update and amazing work for getting it in at all ;D
I'm sure a man of your skills and an angle grinder will make short work of the rest!!
Thanks Phil - a lot of this is down to the angle grinder :D
Cheers Adrian
How does the flat front panel attach? Could it unbolt and have a spacer fitted behind it? Preserving the look of the car, while solving the headlamp and exhaust clearance problem. Hard to say 'cos I haven't seen one for years and the photos are limited.
Quote from: benchmark51 on 07, December, 2015, 11:29:51 AM
How does the flat front panel attach? Could it unbolt and have a spacer fitted behind it? Preserving the look of the car, while solving the headlamp and exhaust clearance problem. Hard to say 'cos I haven't seen one for years and the photos are limited.
Dave - its all one piece. Well done Leyland (doesn't matter if its UK or Australia). They did at least make the middle bit detachable after 1979. My 1981 black Moke has the removeable grille. Thanks for the idea :D
Cheers Adrian
I gave the 4-2-1 manifold a 'let me explain' session with the grinder this evening. That coupled with a bit of vice action ;D has sorted the pipework so that it now fits. All I need to do know is get it re-welded :D
Cheers Adrian
Quote from: Daley Down Under on 07, December, 2015, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: benchmark51 on 07, December, 2015, 11:29:51 AM
How does the flat front panel attach? Could it unbolt and have a spacer fitted behind it? Preserving the look of the car, while solving the headlamp and exhaust clearance problem. Hard to say 'cos I haven't seen one for years and the photos are limited.
Dave - its all one piece. Well done Leyland (doesn't matter if its UK or Australia). They did at least make the middle bit detachable after 1979. My 1981 black Moke has the removeable grille. Thanks for the idea :D
Ok, it's just that I found an advert and looking at it, it seemed possible.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Mini-Moke-Front-Panel-/331712401416?hash=item4d
Cheers Adrian
A little bit more progress this evening (and some photos to boot) ... the alternator is now bolted in situ and the longer drive belt is fitted. Clutch is now operational - cable and pedal mods have worked a treat. I've also managed to prep the driveshafts for machining and welding. I've done some drawings so should be able to get them made over the Christmas break.
Cheers for now,
Adrian
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And so 4 bits of driveshafts become 2 + the exhaust manifold flange is now drilled out to accept the modified pipes. More little steps
Cheers Adrian
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Happy New Year all,
Now we're back from the family Snowies Road Trip, I've managed to get a few hours under the carport working on MOKIII. The modified driveshafts are in and everything works ok. The end result is pretty good for alignment also - driveshafts sit almost horizontal and only slightly out of line looking from above.
I've also lost the Cyclops look - in other words I've managed to modify the headlamp bowl to enable me to get the original light unit back in and clear the cam cover. Very happy with the result and a massive 8mm clearance :D
Next win has been the induction pipework and air filter - all looking quite blingy in polished ally and red silicone hose. I still have to cut the threads back on the clamps (Pete Smith) and make a bracket to keep everything in place, but otherwise ticked off the list ;D
As a result of mounting the air filter down at the front behind the grille, I've had to find a revised location for the radiator. I'm going to start by using the alloy rad that I put into MOKIII originally. If that doesn't provide enough cooling I'll try a 2" alloy rad. I've fitted a 9" Davies Craig electric fan to the rad and decided to use the original radiator location. I'll mount the rad to the subframe tower at the back and the engine mount location at the front (next job).
Then I'm on to gear shift and welding up the extractors (which was going to be my first job back but I got distracted :D) so that I can fit the exhaust.
Shame its back to work tomorrow :(
Cheers Adrian
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That does look like a bit of a tight squeeze with the light but glad you did it mate. 8)
Lovely job!
Your progressing great Adrian, won't be long now....hope you don't have too much hassle with the exhaust!! ;)
Thanks Colin, Ian and Tony - might be on the road again just in time for Winter :D
Cheers Adrian
Hi Adrian, just caught you thread, have a look here http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23 these guys put all manner of things in mini's and dirivatives including the Suzuki engines, maybe you can grab a few ideas from them...
I followed your link and quickly read the first posting " Mindy gets 16v". It was interesting as the mini was his first car and he is never going to sell it. Apart from all the usual things you replace in the life of a car, it's had several different engines 998, 1340, 1380, so I presume that meant different transmissions too. He has re-shelled the car and is now fitting a Suzuki 16v engine ect. So I'm wondering how much of the original car is left, not to sell? Triggers broom revisited? ;D ;D
Quote from: pompeyal on 18, January, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
Hi Adrian, just caught you thread, have a look here http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23 these guys put all manner of things in mini's and dirivatives including the Suzuki engines, maybe you can grab a few ideas from them...
Thanks mate - I'm a member on 16v Mini Club. It's a great forum - there's sections for all possible 16v transplants and I've posted a fair bit in the Suzuki one. They've been helpful already on alternator mountings.
Cheers Adrian
Despite having to get the portable air con out, I spent most of the day under the carport today fitting the radiator (it may not even need to come out again :D) Brackets look fine painted and bolted to the subframe tower at the rear and engine mounting at the front. Its nice and secure and the finishing strip does a good job of hiding all the chopping around the inner wing. I've also sorted the cooling hose arrangement (not fitted yet). 3 x Moke top hoses, 2 aluminium joiners and a short straight hose will enable me to connect inlet and outlet and avoid the possible chaffing around the gearbox area. Now where do I get red mini top hoses from?
Cheers Adrian
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Adrian,
I really feel for you!
QuoteDespite having to get the portable air con out, I spent most of the day under the carport today fitting the radiator
The air-con is very effective here!
I wont say how warm and sunny its been since my last update.
Seemed to spend this weekend taking stuff off/stripping stuff down/cleaning stuff up whilst waiting for some parts to arrive/be modified. My extractors are still not back from the welders and my gear linkage parts have not arrived (so I couldn't get on with modifying the gear shift). I'm also waiting for a set of red silicone hoses for the cooling system.
In the meantime, I've started on the fuelling. One of the key jobs for the EFI system is to run a return line from the fuel rail to the tank. With the older top fill, there's not much room anywhere around the tank when it situ. I've taken the tank out, removed the sender unit which is mounted on the front end and had a pause to think.
My plan (after the think) is to run the return line through a hole in the sender unit (through which I'll fit a M10 threaded 6mm brass barb with sealing washers each side). My fall back option is to fit a Suzuki Swift fuel pump (which has a built in return line) through a new hole cut in the end of the tank. This will require some significant mods to the partition in the side box (not preferred).
I'm intending to use the front storage compartment in the side box (the one in front of the tank in older Mokes) to fit the fuel filter and VL fuel pump, with the supply and return lines following the traditional route through the front bulkhead. Should be able to make progress on this next weekend, after the fuel hoses, barb and reducers arrive.
I've also been sorting out the booster location, brake pipe routes and coolant overflow tank location. It's a bit tight but everything will go under the bonnet ;D
Cheers Adrian
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Very I gauging thread ;D
Keep up the good work. ;D.
Quote from: Crunchie Gears on 31, January, 2016, 07:55:52 AM
Very I gauging thread ;D
Keep up the good work. ;D.
Thanks CG - not an Ultima though :D
Cheers Adrian
Nice work Adrian. I wonder what will be next when this one is finished? ;)
Enjoying this thread - nice to see some steady progress. Should be a great car when its done.
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 31, January, 2016, 07:49:42 PM
Nice work Adrian. I wonder what will be next when this one is finished? ;)
Got to finish this one first Phil :D
PS: sold the 944 Turbo S this weekend (after 18 months). Shame to see it go :(
Quote from: sanzomat on 31, January, 2016, 08:51:14 PM
Enjoying this thread - nice to see some steady progress. Should be a great car when its done.
It is only steady progress - hopefully will move a little faster from here on in :D
Cheers Adrian
Adrian, you going to bring it over for a track day at Coombe when its finished :P
Maybe not but post a video of it in action when you can.
Quote from: Gary RH7 on 31, January, 2016, 10:38:25 PM
Adrian, you going to bring it over for a track day at Coombe when its finished :P
Maybe not but post a video of it in action when you can.
If we ever come back from Oz, I guarantee the red Moke will be coming too - Combe is a must.
I'll post a video once up and running. Also hoping to get it to Lakeside (local track) once all shakedown and proving is done :D
Cheers Adrian
I love it when parts arrive ;D
During the week I got all my red hoses (fuel and coolant), a selection of pipe connectors, reducers, barbs, clips and my modified extractors were finally ready. I'm still waiting on my dizzy and gear selector bracket, but I had more than enough stuff to make some real progress this weekend. The fuel pump, fuel filter and lines are all in (no electrics yet), the sender unit is modified to include a fuel return, the fuel tank is back in and all coolant hoses are now connected. I've also wrapped the extractors and bolted them up in situ (just the system and back box to fit now).
A few pics ...
Cheers Adrian
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Very tidy job mate. 8)
Love the number plate Adrian.....and colour matched as well!! ;D
Quote from: paintman on 07, February, 2016, 11:30:46 PM
Love the number plate Adrian.....and colour matched as well!! ;D
And only $440 (£200) Tony :)
Bargain!!!😉
Moke and Suzuki = moki :D
Looking good Adrian. Must be nice to have a tinker in the warm :)
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 08, February, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Looking good Adrian. Must be nice to have a tinker in the warm :)
Thanks Phil
Got home from work a bit earlier today. Managed to do a trial fit with all under bonnet components. There's still room for the ECU on the bulkhead ;D
Cheers Adrian
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That picture could be in an art museum. ;D
That looks great :-*
Agreed,
Leave the bonnet off - its too good to hide!
Quote from: Crunchie Gears on 09, February, 2016, 08:26:10 PM
That picture could be in an art museum. ;D
That looks great :-*
Thanks CG - I might have to paint the overflow tank now 8)
Quote from: Iancider on 09, February, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
Agreed,
Leave the bonnet off - its too good to hide!
Ian - they have a habit of flying open anyway so not a bad idea
That's a beaut cobber!
Wife's 50th on Saturday so Moke work has been a bit limited ;D
Did manage to get out there today for a while and spend some more time on the wiring. The coil loom is now minimalized and I've fitted the coil to the bulkhead. The fuel pump wiring is in and tested - all works fine and the return line via a barb through the sender unit is a winner. Just like the England rugby team ;D
I've also fitted the main 60A fuse breaker from the Suzuki between the alternator/rest of the loom and battery cable (its bolted to the subframe tower on the driver's side). The battery cable is now in one continuous piece all the way to the starter motor.
I've also fitted some 'new' speakers to replace the very sub standard ones that used to sit under the dash. The 2nd photo also shows the ECU (now mounted centrally up under the dash) - if you look really closely. Finally, I've relocated the windscreen washer bottle to its new home above the passenger footwell.
I've been promised the gear shift bracket this week, so I'll be able to do the final 'major job' and fit the shortened gear linkage. Last major job apart from the wiring of course. ::)
Cheers Adrian
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Adrian. Good work! :D
I need to ask about the 4x2 wooden plank? People who know me know I like a bit of wood in a car (Morgans) but did not think a moke had too much in it :o
Not long to go. Keep up the good work :P
I like the use of the cycling drinks bottle but is it labelled SPEW on the side?! ;) :D :o
Quote from: Crunchie Gears on 20, March, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
Adrian. Good work! :D
I need to ask about the 4x2 wooden plank? People who know me know I like a bit of wood in a car (Morgans) but did not think a moke had too much in it :o
Not long to go. Keep up the good work :P
I got a B in O level Woodwork so thought I'd put it to good use :D
The wooden 'planks' are essentially carriers for the plywood dash. Here's a view of finished article. The existing top and bottom rails just provided a good mounting point.
Cheers Adrian
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Quote from: Iancider on 20, March, 2016, 10:37:55 PM
I like the use of the cycling drinks bottle but is it labelled SPEW on the side?! ;) :D :o
That's what everyone will be doing at 8000 rpm in 5th :D
The Moke's looking really tidy and up-together now Adrian.....love the dash! 8)
Certainly doesn't look like an old car anymore.......almost up to date. ;)
Quote from: paintman on 20, March, 2016, 11:47:02 PM
The Moke's looking really tidy and up-together now Adrian.....love the dash! 8)
Certainly doesn't look like an old car anymore.......almost up to date. ;)
Thanks Tony - that photo was taken in 2013 just after I finished the first resto. Not looking quite so pristine at the moment with wires everywhere and covered in dust. Will not be long before it looks like that again though 8)
Cheers Adrian
Very smart. I want one 8)
Very nice mate. 8)
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 21, March, 2016, 02:59:48 PM
Very smart. I want one 8)
I've got a spare one Phil - just resembles a sack of spanners that's all :D
Cheers Adrian
Quote from: Moleman on 21, March, 2016, 08:54:19 PM
Very nice mate. 8)
Thanks Colin - sorry to hear about your off at Combe. Pleased damage to car was not too significant and damage to you was even less.
Cheers Adrian
Fab looking little beastie Adrian. I'd quite like one of those myself. I reckon I'd get more use out of it than I do with my current kits.
Blimey they fetch strong money here in the UK!!!! http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/82/moke/
Quote from: Facial Hair Optional on 22, March, 2016, 03:34:07 PM
Fab looking little beastie Adrian. I'd quite like one of those myself. I reckon I'd get more use out of it than I do with my current kits.
Blimey they fetch strong money here in the UK!!!! http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/82/moke/
Thanks FHO and good grief - that is strong money. Mine will definitely come back with me if we ever return to UK.
PS: gear shift bracket finally turned up yesterday so I can get on and modify/fit gear linkage. That's the last big job apart from finishing the wiring :D
Cheers Adrian
A bit off subject, but an interesting use of a mini.
(http://s14.postimg.org/js8wreygd/minimix.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/js8wreygd/)
That is really cool. 8)
Sacrilege
That pick-up looks mint! :o
It's been a while since my last update but things have been progressing (just not photo worthy). During the last few days, I've been at the wiring, gear linkage and clutch pedal mods. I now have a 5 speed ;D
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The linkage was a bit of a challenge - not sure what its made of but welding was not going well so I resorted to a sleeve and pipe bender. Its turned out ok and works a treat.
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The engine bay is just about finished apart from tidying the wiring and securing relays/fuses. I'm hoping to get the remainder of the fuel/ECU wiring completed this weekend so should be able to try a start up ;D
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Cheers Adrian
Nice work Adrian. Start up Video maybe? 8)
Progressing well now Adrian ;)
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 15, April, 2016, 06:01:54 PM
Nice work Adrian. Start up Video maybe? 8)
May be Phil (although might have to wait for auto electrician visit :D
Didn't quite make it as far as starting up. Close but no cigar - I've got ignition light, oil pressure light, the starter motor turns over on the key but I cant figure out the air flow meter wiring. I'm using a Mk1 AFM and a Mk2 loom. The colours are different and without guessing I'm stuck. I've posted on the 16v Mini forum, Team Swift and the Redline GTI forums - just waiting for a reply now.
Might need to do a bit of tidying on the loom when I'm up and running ;D
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Watch this space.
Cheers Adrian
That bowl of spaghetti looks nearly as bad as mine did a couple of months ago. Keep the faith - you'll get there!
Quote from: sanzomat on 17, April, 2016, 12:51:44 PM
That bowl of spaghetti looks nearly as bad as mine did a couple of months ago. Keep the faith - you'll get there!
All good (and colour-blind too)
QuoteAll good (and colour-blind too)
Now that is an extra dimension of challenging!
Ian
Things are moving forward (albeit in baby steps). I've sorted the AFM wiring problem but don't have a spark.
I spent a good portion of the day with a multimeter and my ECU/ignition system. Most of the voltages and resistances were all good. My problem appears to be the coil (high primary side resistance reading) and the ignition output signal from the ECU which wont deliver 3V at cranking. I've ordered a new coil but will hold fire on getting a replacement ECU until new coil arrives and is tested.
I suppose its progress (i.e. most things are ok) ;D
Cheers Adrian
Just a thought - is there any kind of immobiliser interface with the ECU? Some cars have a separate module (often also controlling central locking) that handshakes with the ecu to enable certain functions. It would be easy to not think it was needed in a moke due to lack of doors but without un-plipping the remote it might not give a spark (or whatever other function Suzuki thought would be a good way of stopping people nicking it)
Thanks for the reply mate - definitely no immobiliser (according to wiring diagrams) and I've not found anything that doesn't line up with diagrams in terms of extra wires.
Cheers Adrian
You didn't forget to but a ground wire to the engine in amongst all that wiring spaghetti did you Adrian? ;D ;)
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 24, April, 2016, 12:56:14 PM
You didn't forget to but a ground wire to the engine in amongst all that wiring spaghetti did you Adrian? ;D ;)
Good thought Phil - all earths in place though. Having done a few more tests, it's pointing more and more to the ECU. Crank Angle Sensor in the distributor is working fine but ECU will not generate an ignition output signal to the coil. Waiting on a reply from the guy who supplied the engine package (inc ECU).
Cheers Adrian
Good luck Adrian, your get there......that's what we love about projects, sorting out the problems..... ::) ;)
Quote from: paintman on 25, April, 2016, 12:03:26 PM
Good luck Adrian, your get there......that's what we love about projects, sorting out the problems..... ::) ;)
Thanks Tony - true enough and in the meantime we have the hovercraft build to be going on with
Cheers Adrian
Hi Adrian,
Its getting close now any chance of a video when it is done?
Regards
Ian
Quote from: Iancider on 26, April, 2016, 11:30:04 PM
Hi Adrian,
Its getting close now any chance of a video when it is done?
Regards
Ian
Sure thing Ian - I'm picking up a replacement ECU this morning so fingers crossed video should be loaded this pm :D
Cheers Adrian
No video :(
I'm beginning to wonder if I will ever get my G13B conversion started. I spent all day today trying to make progress. Dave at DMW Motorsport was super helpful and sourced me a replacement ECU, which made no difference. I then swapped the coil and the power unit - that made no difference either.
I've rechecked all the earths (again) - everything is continuous and grounded. As a last resort, I started to re-check sensors. TPS is fine, WTS is fine. However, despite having 12V at the input connector (white wire - terminal B), my AFM does not deliver an 'in range' signal output on terminal D - black wire (which connects to pin A6 on the ECU). It should be 0.2-0.8V - mine is 0.01V.
Question - can a faulty AFM stop the ECU sending an ignition output signal to the power unit? I still have 0V at cranking on pin C6 (should be 1-3V) and consequently no spark.
PS: the CAS is working fine and delivering a signal to the ECU (pins B1 and B10).
Cheers Adrian
I found someone on the web doing a conversion using a G13B. Lots of piccies, but may be able to help you if you contact him?
http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=51364
Quote from: benchmark51 on 27, April, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
I found someone on the web doing a conversion using a G13B. Lots of piccies, but may be able to help you if you contact him?
http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=51364
Thanks mate - Team Swift is a good resource. I've put a post up there too.
Cheers Adrian.
Maybe it is an ECU safety feature? Theory is that the afm is giving a false reading making the ECU think the mixture is wrong so preventing a spark in order to prevent damage?
Don't you just hate people who theorise on forums?? :P ;D
Hope you get it sorted.
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 27, April, 2016, 06:51:51 PM
Maybe it is an ECU safety feature? Theory is that the afm is giving a false reading making the ECU think the mixture is wrong so preventing a spark in order to prevent damage?
Don't you just hate people who theorise on forums?? :P ;D
Hope you get it sorted.
If it is, its too safe !!!
Thanks Phil
GREAT NEWS :D - I now have a spark. Problem was the EFI relay supply was coming from an ignition feed which was being isolated when the ignition key cranked the starter motor. The supply now comes from a stable 12v battery feed.
Next problem is I now have no fuel pressure. Pump is working fine and fuel is being pumped via the return. Everything was ok so I can only assume the FPR has failed in the fuel rail (the brittle problem encountered elsewhere). I have an adjustable FPR so will install that in the return line at the weekend.
PS: all injectors are firing correctly (checked with a sound meter).
Cheers Adrian
Well done! Sounds like your nearly there. All the fuelling set up as standard?
It's what I intend with the ST170. If I actually do the swap over.
Is the FPR the right way round?
Another frustrating afternoon working on the red Moke. I've now fitted the adjustable FPR and I have the necessary 40psi fuel pressure (all connections are in the right place Damouk). The injectors are still firing (checked with sound scope) BUT THE CAR STILL WONT START. No fuel on the plugs so I'm guessing I need to dismantle the fuel rail and clean the injectors (which is a fairly big job in terms of removing a whole bunch of stuff that's in the way).
I'm going to leave it alone for a few weeks and find something more productive to do.
Cheers Adrian
Very frustrating Adrian. Sometimes a break is good, come back with a fresh mind. Maybe you will have a Eureka! moment while on the break even :)
Need a eureka moment mate - the number of times I thought I founf problem only to find another one.
Cheers Adrian
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
The car finally runs. Looks like it was an air lock in the fuel rail.
Here's a video link ...
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D1303C95EAC2EC10!5870&authkey=!AETVBZ2usSK4crw&ithint=video%2cmp4 (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D1303C95EAC2EC10!5870&authkey=!AETVBZ2usSK4crw&ithint=video%2cmp4)
Cheers Adrian
YEEHAAAAH !!😃😄. 9Time for some tinnies now then.
Quote from: benchmark51 on 14, May, 2016, 05:53:59 AM
YEEHAAAAH !!😃😄. 9Time for some tinnies now then.
Already had a couple ;D
6hrs later and the wiring is nearly finished (its all in the right places now) - much neater than the last few weeks ;D
Cheers Adrian
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Not a lot of room left in there Adrian :o. , Ian
Nice vid Adrian and some great progress. Soon on the road now 8)
Quote from: Vindicator on 21, May, 2016, 07:40:06 PM
Not a lot of room left in there Adrian :o. , Ian
Luckily there's nothing left on the shelves in the garage so everything must be in there now (except perhaps a turbo later)
Cheers Adrian
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 21, May, 2016, 08:12:11 PM
Nice vid Adrian and some great progress. Soon on the road now 8)
Thanks Phil - should be an on the road vid today
Cheers Adrian
Well - after 8months and 8 days the G13B powered Moke is back on the road again (albeit a little unofficially). I managed to get the remainder of the wiring finished off and did a couple of other little jobs that needed to be done. Then a quick spin round the block with the eldest as cameraman. The sound quality isn't the best but the car goes and sounds really good. The motor and box are really smooth. Absolutely love the 5th gear.
There's a few things that aren't quite right:
1. The front geometry is miles out. Tracking is somewhere near but caster needs some work.
2. The brakes could do with bleeding again but the booster has made a huge difference.
3. I need to fit a correct temp sender for the gauge as the Suzuki one gives a false reading.
4. The speedo needs recalibrating as its also miles out. Sort of ok to 60 but then reads very low.
Other than that, the car is already for compliance. I'll get on the phone tomorrow ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I've attached a link to the video is below.
Cheers Adrian
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D1303C95EAC2EC10!5873&authkey=!AOLAAVmygjCVztk&ithint=video%2cmp4
Excellent. So whats the next project when this one is done then Adrian? ;D
Quote from: 'The Gaffer' on 22, May, 2016, 03:03:21 PM
Excellent. So whats the next project when this one is done then Adrian? ;D
Still got the hovercraft to finish (son's school project) and then there's some final work to do on the black Moke and the TVR. That'll do for the moment.
Cheers Adrian
Suzuki Moke got a wash today (first one in 9 months) ;D ;D ;D
Currently got the wheels and tyres from the black Moke fitted (as these are a bit more legal for the mod plating process).
Cheers Adrian
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